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SOLVED: MIDI controller not in MIDI Devices

I just bought an M-Audio Keystation 49 MIDI controller.    I plugged it in and installed the driver.
But when I went to: Edit > Preferences > MIDI > Devices, there is nothing in MIDI Input or Output.
 
I tried re-installing the driver, but it's still not showing up.   I would appreciate any help.
 
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Re: MIDI controller not in MIDI Devices 2014/07/18 22:19:51 (permalink)
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there is nothing in MIDI Input or Output.



By this, do you mean nothing at all, or just no sign of the Keystation?
You should see the MIDI ports of the 2i4, even though nothing is plugged into them. Do they show up?
Did you install the drivers before or after you plugged in the Keystation?
Have you tried connecting the Keystation to a different USB2 port after you installed the drivers?
Are you turning the Keystation and 2i4 on before you start Sonar?
In X3, if you turn on a USB device after the program is opened, you will usually be prompted to use the device.
Sometimes I have to close and restart X3 to get my MIDI devices to register. Have you tried that?
Do you let your computer go to sleep? Don't do that, especially if Sonar is running.
Sorry to answer your question with a bunch more questions, but it may help to find the problem.

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Re: MIDI controller not in MIDI Devices 2014/07/19 00:15:21 (permalink)
Hi Robert -
 
By this, do you mean nothing at all, or just no sign of the Keystation?
 
Nothing at all.

You should see the MIDI ports of the 2i4, even though nothing is plugged into them. Do they show up?
 
No.    I used a Yamaha PSR-550 keyboard for years, but the MIDI on it died.   

Did you install the drivers before or after you plugged in the Keystation?
 
After.

Have you tried connecting the Keystation to a different USB2 port after you installed the drivers?
 
I've tried 2 different USB ports.   

Are you turning the Keystation and 2i4 on before you start Sonar?
 
Yes.  
 
In X3, if you turn on a USB device after the program is opened, you will usually be prompted to use the device.
Sometimes I have to close and restart X3 to get my MIDI devices to register. Have you tried that?
 
I have tried that.

Do you let your computer go to sleep? Don't do that, especially if Sonar is running.
 
I always turn my computer off after I'm done recording.

Sorry to answer your question with a bunch more questions, but it may help to find the problem.
 
I don't mind answering all the questions.    I appreciate the help.
Thanks!
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Re: MIDI controller not in MIDI Devices 2014/07/19 08:00:56 (permalink)
Check device manager for ghost midi devices and delete them, windows has a limit

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Re: MIDI controller not in MIDI Devices 2014/07/19 08:33:03 (permalink)
1.  Are you sure that USB cable is good?
 
2.  Are you sure you are plugging it into a USB 2 port, and not a USB 1 or 3 port?
 
3.  Have you looked at the loaded device drivers for this keyboard in Device Manager, to make sure it shows up there - AND is using the appropriate drivers, AND is showing as working properly?
 
4.  If you fire up a stand-clone synth, does the keyboard show up in that software's MIDI devices in the options? (taking Sonar out of the equation to test that the keyboard, Windows, and some synth are playing nice together)
 
5.  Have you double-checked to make sure you have downloaded and installed the correct driver for your OS version and that it is for the correct keyboard/controller?
 
6.  Some controllers have to be plugged into the very same USB port that it was plugged into when the drivers were installed.  Is your keyboard/controller plugged into the same port as when you installed its drivers?
 
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Re: MIDI controller not in MIDI Devices 2014/07/19 10:20:17 (permalink)
Hi Bob -
 
1.  Are you sure that USB cable is good?
 
I will try another cable.   But shouldn't my MIDI device still show up in MIDI > Devices regardless if the cable works?
 
2.  Are you sure you are plugging it into a USB 2 port, and not a USB 1 or 3 port?

 
Yes, my computer only has USB 2.
 
3.  Have you looked at the loaded device drivers for this keyboard in Device Manager, to make sure it shows up there - AND is using the appropriate drivers, AND is showing as working properly?

 
Not sure about Device Manager.    Is this different than Preferences>MIDI>Devices?
I believe I'm using the correct drivers.
 
4.  If you fire up a stand-clone synth, does the keyboard show up in that software's MIDI devices in the options? (taking Sonar out of the equation to test that the keyboard, Windows, and some synth are playing nice together)

 
Not sure what you mean by a "stand-clone synth."    
 
5.  Have you double-checked to make sure you have downloaded and installed the correct driver for your OS version and that it is for the correct keyboard/controller?
 

I talked to a guy a Sweetwater, and he confirmed the driver for this controller.    

6.  Some controllers have to be plugged into the very same USB port that it was plugged into when the drivers were installed.  Is your keyboard/controller plugged into the same port as when you installed its drivers?

 
Yes.
 
I appreciate your help, Bob.    This has me baffled.
Thanks!
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Re: MIDI controller not in MIDI Devices 2014/07/19 10:58:27 (permalink)
I believe that should read "stand-alone synth".
 
A bad cable would prevent the device from communicating with Sonar (and Windows). If the device is not "present" on the system, it will not appear in your MIDI Devices list.
 
The Device Manager stuff will be in Windows, under Computer.
 
 

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Re: MIDI controller not in MIDI Devices 2014/07/19 11:07:32 (permalink)
I believe that should read "stand-alone synth".
 
Yeah, I kind of figured that's what you meant.    :)
 
A bad cable would prevent the device from communicating with Sonar (and Windows). If the device is not "present" on the system, it will not appear in your MIDI Devices list.
 
Good to know.
 
The Device Manager stuff will be in Windows, under Computer.
 
Yes, Keystation 49 is there.
  
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Re: MIDI controller not in MIDI Devices 2014/07/19 11:24:40 (permalink)
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By this, do you mean nothing at all, or just no sign of the Keystation?
 
Nothing at all.

You should see the MIDI ports of the 2i4, even though nothing is plugged into them. Do they show up?
 
No.    
 



This one is still bugging me. It would appear that Sonar is not recognizing any MIDI I/O.
Do you recall seeing the 2i4 MIDI at any time on this machine?
I don't have an answer yet, but this looks like a key point.

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Re: MIDI controller not in MIDI Devices 2014/07/19 12:27:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby lawp 2014/07/20 13:42:43
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Check device manager for ghost midi devices and delete them, windows has a limit



Here's an article on how to do this.

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Re: MIDI controller not in MIDI Devices 2014/07/19 14:09:16 (permalink)
I ended up calling Sweetwater.   The tech guy went through a list of things and said something in my audio had been disconnected.   I have no idea exactly what or how.    Anyway, it took a while to get it reconfigured, but it's running now.
 
Thank you guys very much for all your help!!
 
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Re: MIDI controller not in MIDI Devices 2014/07/19 14:10:57 (permalink)
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Here's an article on how to do this.



 
Thanks for the article!  I will read it.
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