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SOLVED PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
A while ago, I used the PSP multi-installer and now am thinking I'd rather just have the 19 PSP plugs that I own, in my VST list rather than scrolling through all 50 or so. I've got 800 plugins in SPLAT and wonder what the easiest way to go about this would be. I suppose uninstalling the multi installer and then reinstalling each of my 19 PSP plugs is the most likely way, but wonder if there's another option. Could I remove the ones I don't have (trial versions), somehow in the Plug In Manager? Still that seems like more work, if I have to do them singly. Any suggestions will be cheerfully appreciated! LOL Michael
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 19:08:44
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☼ Best Answerby pentimentosound 2018/03/07 19:50:17
The plug-in manager has an exclude list. When plug-ins are added to the list, they still reside in the VST inventory in the registry but no longer display in SONAR plug-in menus or browser.
To add a plug-in to the exclude list: click on its entry in the Registered Plug-ins column then click the Exclude Plug-ins Button.
To remove a plug-in from the exclude list: click the "Show Excluded" radio button, click the plug-in category, click the plug-in name in the Registered Plug-ins column then click the "Enable Plug-in" button.
I believe multiple selections may be processed at a time using the standard Windows SHIFT+click and CTRL+click functions. IIRC, the exclude list is restored to its default during a VST reset.
Another solution is move the dll and vst3 files out of the scan path then run a scan.
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 19:25:01
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I love Sonar's plugin manager! It has all possibilities that you can wish! The only thing that should be added is the possibility to scan only for NEW plugins. In Samplitude this runs 100 times faster (except for the Waves shell sh**) like a Sonar plugin scan and often this is the only thing you want to do!
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 19:56:55
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Thanks Steve. I haven't really explored that part of the Plug In Manager, at all, though I've looked at it to see what was "in or out of favor".
I'll give the multiple thing a try and post back.
and I'll definitely look at the scan paths, just to learn more about it.
@marled The PIM has always worked pretty well for me, but I haven't any other DAW to compare it to, yet. Looking at your gear, makes me miss my C414b/uls pair. I don't miss my Tascam 38, though it did seem like simpler days, then!LOL
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 20:16:28
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The only thing that should be added is the possibility to scan only for NEW plugins.
This is how the SONAR scanner works unless the two "Rescan" setting are enabled in scan options. Unlike the image on help page, they are off by default. There options are rarely needed.
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 20:41:09
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marled
The only thing that should be added is the possibility to scan only for NEW plugins.
This is how the SONAR scanner works unless the two "Rescan" setting are enabled in scan options. Unlike the image on help page, they are off by default. There options are rarely needed.
Thanks scook! I always set the "Rescan existing plugins" to off, but the other one I had enabled (strange that it caused a full scan). If I also disable the failed plugins, then it does really only scan the NEW ones. But nevertheless the scan takes about 10 times longer than in Samplitude! I wonder why? @pentimentosound: Yes, I am glad that I never sold my C414B-ULS. I often use it for vocals. Concerning tape recording I still think that working with hardware recorders I was much more productive, creative and focused to the music. Today I do "play" too much with the computer and the plugins, and always looking for new stuff! But probably that is my fault or I am just too old!
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 20:49:42
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Just to be clear, all but 1 of my 19 purchased PSP plugs have been in use for a while ... just added another last month. I ran the multi-installer about 2 years ago, after buying several and having to update a couple. I don't like having to scroll through all 50 of PSP's plugs to find one of my 19.
Yeah, marled, I feel like that often. Just turned 69 and spent 2 weeks on restoring/rebuilding my studio PC. I love the music side WAY MORE than the PC side! LOL However, when I saw what could be done with ProAudio 9, I bought a PC and a copy. I don't really regret that at all......... though I gripe a bit now and then! LOL
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 20:56:31
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So my whole PSP folder is in Program Files> Steinberg>VSTPlugins.
But just removing the dlls, isn't enough (not counting the rescan)?
Michael
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 21:03:50
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... spent 2 weeks on restoring/rebuilding my studio PC...
I don't really regret that at all......... though I gripe a bit now and then! LOL
Michael
The same here (2 weeks + don't regret + gripe), LOL !
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 21:10:03
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So my whole PSP folder is in Program Files> Steinberg>VSTPlugins.
But just removing the dlls, isn't enough (not counting the rescan)?
Michael
It depends whether you are using an own plugin menu layout. If yes, then you have also to remove the (inactive) plugins now. Marc
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 21:14:48
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SONAR creates the list of available plug-ins from the registry. That list gets displayed in SONAR based on the plug-in layouts selected unless using a custom layout. Custom layouts are user maintained displays based on a snapshot of the plug-ins available at the time the layout was built.
The registry entries are built for DX plug-ins when installed by running regsvr.exe (usually done automatically be the installer) and by the vst scanner for VST2 and VST3 plug-ins.
Simply moving or deleting plug-ins out of the scan path does not affect the registry. The scaner keeps the VST inventory in the registry correct.
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 21:23:31
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I don't know if I am using an "own plugin menu" or at least must not be since I didn't create one that window doesn't show one, other than Platinum Effects in the pull down.
@ Steve Yup. I can exclude multiple plugs at once, so now I just need to go through what comes with what.
Sometimes like Vintage Warmer, you also get Micro Warmer, and there are old versions ie Vintage Warmer vs Vintage Warmer 2
Thanks
I'll post back once I have it sorted.
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 21:27:41
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Simply moving or deleting plug-ins out of the scan path does not affect the registry. The scaner keeps the VST inventory in the registry correct.
Does that mean I need to remove them from the registry, too, then? Or is it "OK" that all the trial versions stay there? Michael
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 21:33:27
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☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2018/03/07 21:36:07
Custom layouts include the old Platinum Effects layout (I believe Cakewalk stopped maintaining that layout a while back). By default SONAR uses the "Sort by Category" layout. The first of the three dynamic "Sort by" layouts. These are built on the fly and show all available plug-ins. All the other layouts are static files that need user edits to keep current.
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 21:38:17
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Yeah, Sort by Category is where I've stayed......... I don't venture into areas unless I know what goes on there
and can find my way back. LOL
So it terms of IK stuff I could remove the VST3 instruments and only show the VST2 ones, too. Hmmmm
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 21:38:46
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☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2018/03/07 21:53:03
pentimentosound
Does that mean I need to remove them from the registry, too, then? Or is it "OK" that all the trial versions stay there?
No. The VST scanner is responsible for that task. If a dll or vst3 file is not in the scan path, the scanner removes the entry from the registry.
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 21:43:26
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So it terms of IK stuff I could remove the VST3 instruments and only show the VST2 ones, too. Hmmmm
You could but unless there is a reason to favor VST2 over VST3, I would suggest doing the opposite. There are a few manufacturers who take shortcuts with VST3 plug-ins but the format is the future,
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 21:55:19
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I do understand about the VST3 advantages and it being the wave to ride.
I haven't used any IK instruments in a few months and perhaps it's better now, but the VST2 versions had way less "bother" than the VST3's.
I'll check on that before doing "anything drastic"! LOL
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 22:01:41
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IIRC, there were reports of issues with IK VST3 plug-ins. I do not use IK products and have no idea what their status is now.
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/07 22:09:13
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Yeah, I have not paid attention to that in a while. It's a good time to catch up on it now.
The CW forum was quite helpful in that regard with the IK instruments. I don't think I had any issues with the FX from T-Racks, which I've now updated to T-Racks 5 .
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Re: PSP Multi-installer removal for individual plugs.
2018/03/11 15:11:04
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So I followed Steve's advice and excluded the trial versions of my PSP stuff and am happy with the result.
Thanks
Michael
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