[SOLVED] X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small

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2013/12/30 07:59:56 (permalink)

[SOLVED] X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small

First of all, I live in the PRV. It's my main screen when working with MIDI notes.
 
At some point I began to realize something isn't right with it in X2. When I shrink the Track Info Pane so just the MSR buttons are visible, the text disappears. I do this to maximize work space.
 
Especially when I have several tracks open in PRV I need to know which track I'm on. It's frustrating not being able to look over and see the track number or name as I'm so used to doing in every version prior to X2, as seen below:
 

 
I'm sure X2 was designed this way so do you think it's worth a feature request to fix?
 
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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2013/12/30 08:06:18 (permalink)
    X2A is the final service pack for X2 - sorry.
    I'm not 100% sure how to reproduce your issue (maybe others can). I would suggest installing the X3 demo when it (finally) gets released to see if it resolves your issue. 
     

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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2013/12/30 08:28:03 (permalink)
    I guess I forgot to ask if X3 does the same thing. Can anyone with X3 verify this?
     
    The request would obviously be for the next release update or version.
     
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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2013/12/30 08:33:14 (permalink)
    Hi Steve, I just opened X3 to check this and the track number appears just above the Record button. As you narrow that window, the right edge disappears, but the number remains there until you narrow it so much that record button no longer fits.

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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2013/12/30 09:41:16 (permalink)
    It sounds like X3 fixed the issue then.
     
    Thanks mettelus!
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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2013/12/30 09:53:05 (permalink)
    I've just checked both X3d and X2a and both show the track number just above the Record button. I don't remember experiencing your issue. Could you provide steps to reproduce it using X2's Normal project template?

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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2013/12/30 20:55:19 (permalink)
    X2a 

     
    X3d


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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2013/12/30 21:50:47 (permalink)
    I concur with Jlien.  I'm using X2a and I see track numbers displayed, even when severely shrunk to a narrow width.
     

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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2013/12/30 22:32:22 (permalink)
    There are no steps really. All I'm doing is grabbing the Track Pane's left border with the mouse and shrinking the window.
     
    Here's a fancy illustration:

     
    X2a has done this since the beginning, but I only now realized it shouldn't be happening. It happens in all projects new and old.
     
     
    So why is mine doing this and no one else's?
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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2013/12/31 00:51:18 (permalink)
    Try it with different screen resolutions.

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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2013/12/31 02:53:41 (permalink)
    Thanks Alex, no change tho.
     
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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2013/12/31 03:57:11 (permalink)
    Sorry soens, I'm not seeing that here, seems like a graphics problem. Any change to your GFX card or driver recently?

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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2013/12/31 05:56:40 (permalink)
    Steve, what version of Windows are you running? It seems you have some scrolling behavior setting set to minimize graphic usage (either in Windows or X2).
     
    The only thing that comes to mind offhand is in Win7... Go to Start, type in "perf" and select "Adjust the appearance and performance of Windows" The first page that pops up is default windows appearance (which it will apply to ALL windows open unless overridden by the program). Try enabling all of them ("Adjust for Best Appearance" at the top) and see if this helps you... the ones that stick out in that list are "Fade or slide menus into view" and "Fade or slide ToolTips into view"
     
    I cannot remember when those settings "take" so you may need to close reopen X2. See if that helps any.
     
    I am glad Jlien X jumped in here! I never even thought to check X2, I am sorry.
     
    Edit: I just ran through X2's preferences and do not see anything "obvious" in X2 (Preferences->Customization->Display/Colors) to override Windows, so am assuming that you have a global Windows setting that is causing this behavior.
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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2014/01/01 04:08:49 (permalink)
    Thanks for the tips... still nothing tho. I should add that this is on an HP ENVY i7 Windows 7 laptop with AMD Radeon graphics if that matters.
     
    I may try installing X2 on my WinXP desktop to compare.
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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2014/01/01 04:34:59 (permalink)
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    I may try installing X2 on my WinXP desktop to compare.



    If you do that, try testing it both before and after you install the X2a update.

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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2014/01/01 08:03:50 (permalink)
    Solved it! It was a Windows display setting. The main text size was set to "Medium - 125%" (default).
     
    When I changed it to "Smaller - 100%" I can now see the PRV Track Info Text, tho it sure makes the rest of Windows hard to read.
     
    1. Right-click desktop
    2. Click "Personalize"
    3. Click "Display"
    4. Under "Make it easier to read..." click "Smaller - 100%"
     
    I guess I can still say X2 was designed this way since X1 and prior are not affected by it.
     
    You would think the default setting would work but not in my case.
     
    What's funny is if I select "Larger - 150%" I get a warning that says "Some items may not fit on your screen if you choose this setting..."
     
    So do the rest of you use the default setting?
     
    post edited by soens - 2014/01/01 08:10:38
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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2014/01/01 08:07:35 (permalink)
    I just checked mine and it says "Smaller - 100%" is the default, which I use.

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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2014/01/01 08:24:47 (permalink)
    I will add that since I use a 17" monitor @ 1920 x 1080 I will keep it set to 125% and just live with it.
     
    Then again, since previous Sonar versions have no issues with it I may submit a "bug" report anyway.
     
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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2014/01/01 11:33:45 (permalink)
    Hi Steve, have you tried running SONAR using an external monitor, or even a TV? That is an option to give you more physical real-estate for the same screen resolution.

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    Re: X2a PRV Track Pane Info Disappears When Small 2014/01/01 16:12:37 (permalink)
    You bet! At home I use a 24" monitor with the laptop. But on the road it's just me an' the ol' 17 incher.
     
    Even with the 24 I still need the 125%.
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