Helpful Reply[SOLVED] "Everett" - Sonar constantly freezing in PRV

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2015/06/06 08:43:11 (permalink)

[SOLVED] "Everett" - Sonar constantly freezing in PRV

I am getting constant freezes while working in the piano roll view since updating Sonar Platinum to "Everett". I'm able to move my cursor, but if I try to click on something, the screen does that transparent "whitewash" thing when a program is not responding and I must CTRL+ALT+DEL in order to close Sonar. Very frustrating as I spend most of my time in PRV. I have projects for clients with deadlines and this is really irritating. I never outwardly whine when I post that I'm having issues, but I'm going to whine right now. Only VERY RARELY did I ever have issues like this with X3. I really miss my stable Sonar. ;)

Any suggestions would be really appreciated!

Thank you everyone!
post edited by Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk] - 2015/06/09 19:51:57

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Re: "Everett" - Sonar constantly freezing in PRV 2015/06/06 08:59:31 (permalink)
No one seems to believe us, but I agree that Everett is unstable and unpredictable, especially anything having to do with PRV in a heavily loaded project ... I rolled back to Dorchester.   The symptom of White Screen, flashing every 10-20 seconds, and never freeing up, was one I had never seen in any other Sonar before.    And I got it repeatedly in Everett. 
 
Also, though this could have been user error, it took me many many many many hours to recover existing projects, as if the rollback had left something or other behind that was put in with Everett and that contributed to problems.
post edited by williamcopper - 2015/06/06 09:07:56
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Re: "Everett" - Sonar constantly freezing in PRV 2015/06/06 09:16:40 (permalink)
I believe you.  I am having the identical problems however mine is very random.  I can work for hours with no White Screen then sometimes I can't work for 5 minutes.  I have tried to track down the problem but with no success thus far.

I have had a number of other anomalies with Everett that I can't pinpoint the problem.  I never had problems with Platinum until Everett.



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Re: "Everett" - Sonar constantly freezing in PRV 2015/06/06 12:15:24 (permalink)
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No one seems to believe us, but I agree that Everett is unstable and unpredictable, especially anything having to do with PRV in a heavily loaded project.



I guess you missed Dan Cate's post acknowledging problems with PRV display when the controller pane is open. I haven't seen whitescreens, but I have seen redraw delays when first opening the controller pane or changing its size, and when zooming the timeline with the controller pane showing. Dan indicated it should be fixed in an upcoming quickfix.

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Re: "Everett" - Sonar constantly freezing in PRV 2015/06/06 12:40:56 (permalink)
Hi all,
You may want to check out the thread "[SOLVED !!] Everett PRV playback and display issue"
http://forum.cakewalk.com/SOLVED-Everett-PRV-playback-and-display-issue-m3233614.aspx


I believe a fix for this is imminent
 
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Re: "Everett" - Sonar constantly freezing in PRV 2015/06/06 15:41:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby gswitz 2015/06/06 15:56:53
This problem has been fixed - it was an inefficiency in the drawing code when you have dense controller data.
We should release an update pretty soon to resolve it. You can temporarily resolve it by hiding the controllers pane.
If its a life and death situation and you cant wait a couple of days PM me and I'll try and get it to you :)

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Re: "Everett" - Sonar constantly freezing in PRV 2015/06/06 21:41:54 (permalink)
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
This problem has been fixed - it was an inefficiency in the drawing code when you have dense controller data.
We should release an update pretty soon to resolve it. You can temporarily resolve it by hiding the controllers pane.
If its a life and death situation and you cant wait a couple of days PM me and I'll try and get it to you :)


Great to hear! Looking forward to the update. Thanks for fixing this issue so quickly :)
Thanks to everyone else for chiming in and for the suggestions. 

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Anybody else having performance issues after last Platinum patch? 2015/06/07 10:02:54 (permalink)
I thought it was just me, that I must be doing something wrong, but... fortunately I also have a copy of X3 on this computer, and I can load the same project which was created in Platinum up into X3, and it loads, and everything is fine.
 
If I load this project up in Platinum now, any attempt to edit midi data in the piano roll view invokes massive lags and "Not Responding".  Even trying to resize the piano roll view does that.
 
It's a large but not huge project:  27 tracks.  Works fine in X3, and it wasn't even created in X3, so that is my workaround for now:  go back to using X3, I guess.,
 
 
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Never had a problem like this before. 
 
It has taken a while to load so many Kontakt instruments, and I have always got drop outs until they were fully loaded.   That's normal stuff.
 
This is not normal.  Windows like the piano roll view freeze (well, everything is affected), but it will play the thing back.  Just don't try to change anything because it's like running X-windows over a modem ;)
 
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Re: Anybody else having performance issues after last Platinum patch? 2015/06/07 10:07:52 (permalink)
Please see this thread 

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Re: Anybody else having performance issues after last Platinum patch? 2015/06/07 10:13:59 (permalink)
If you experience performance issues with kontakt try removing the convolution reverbs that are inserted with many of the presets. If you must use them put one on an aux bus.

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Re: Anybody else having performance issues after last Platinum patch? 2015/06/07 10:39:39 (permalink)
Pretty sure it is the PRV bug. There aren't any effects on any instruments ;) Paid good money to get instruments that have many mic positions and don't need artificial reverb. Lol
 
Kontakt taking a while to load 27 tracks of large instruments is normal stuff. Usually takes a few minutes.
 
Being unable to edit in PRV because Sonar becomes unusable if you have is not normal. Looking forward to the fix and thankfully have a workaround with X3 until then.
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Re: Anybody else having performance issues after last Platinum patch? 2015/06/08 09:07:12 (permalink)
Looking forward to the fix and thankfully have a workaround with X3 until then.
You may know this but one of the cool features about CCC is you can just roll back to earlier versions of Platinum (it only takes 2-3 minutes to do so).
 

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Re: Anybody else having performance issues after last Platinum patch? 2015/06/08 09:32:39 (permalink)
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Looking forward to the fix and thankfully have a workaround with X3 until then.
You may know this but one of the cool features about CCC is you can just roll back to earlier versions of Platinum (it only takes 2-3 minutes to do so).
 




I did not know that.  Will check it out because I miss the pattern copy :)
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Re: Anybody else having performance issues after last Platinum patch? 2015/06/08 20:39:02 (permalink)
Did anyone else notice that the velocity data in the PRV reverted back to the old node system with Everett? They had updated it to bars that could be adjusted and redrawn, but since I updated it's back to how it was in X3. Did I do something wrong or is this a mistake?

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Re: Anybody else having performance issues after last Platinum patch? 2015/06/09 11:00:54 (permalink)
The performance issue appears to be fixed in latest update.
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Re: "Everett" - Sonar constantly freezing in PRV 2015/09/14 13:37:42 (permalink)
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This problem has been fixed - it was an inefficiency in the drawing code when you have dense controller data.
We should release an update pretty soon to resolve it. You can temporarily resolve it by hiding the controllers pane.
If its a life and death situation and you cant wait a couple of days PM me and I'll try and get it to you :)



It has not been fixed.
I have the latest build (21.7.00 Build 18 Hopkinton -x64) which I installed 2 weeks ago and it still randomly stops responding when editing in PRV.
Screen greys out and if I wait for Sonar to respond, it looks like it's back after a few minutes but doesn't respond to any clicks. I always end up closing and re-opening the program. Major waste of time. 
 
This is a project with only AD2 open, nothing else, and I don't use the Controller Pane.
 
 
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Re: "Everett" - Sonar constantly freezing in PRV 2015/09/15 11:50:24 (permalink)
The issue that was fixed was specifically related to the Controller pane; if you're not using it, you have a different issue and should start a new thread. Most likely you're issue is project- or system-specific; if it were a universal problem, you wouldn't have to go back three months to find a post about it.
 
 

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