(SOLVED)"Unable to open audio playback evice?"

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(SOLVED)"Unable to open audio playback evice?"

All of a sudden  ......For some reason Sonar will not let me play any of my projects... When I select play I get this..............Unable to open audio playback device. Device may not support the current project's audio format or may be in use.?
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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 21:44:11 (permalink)
    The error is what it says. your audio settings do not support your project.
    So I would check your Sample Rates and make sure they match and check Share drivers with other programs in options/audio/advanced and check driver mode also and it will be fixed
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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 21:45:31 (permalink)
    Using ASIO driver?
    Got some other audio program running?
    Even Media Player or any program that plays audio?
    Because if you do and you're using ASIO drivers,
    you'll get that message.

    ASIO only allows one driver at a time.


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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 21:46:36 (permalink)
    I use ASIO driver mode and i can play media players and sonar.
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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 21:56:28 (permalink)
    That's on the MOTU is it?

    Does it's ASIO driver have multi I/O?

    Some interfaces and sound cards
    like the ECHO MIA I use, have multi I/O
    built into the one ASIO driver and as long as
    each program is on a separate I/O it
    will allow more than 1 program to sound
    at the same time.

    But that message definitely does appear
    if 2 or more than one audio programs try
    to access the same I/O.

    The 1st program to gain access to the driver
    will deny access to any other programs that
    try to access that I/O.

    Other ASIO interfaces that have only 1 I/O
    will only allow one audio program at a time
    to access the ASIO driver.

    Again it's 1st in 1st served.

    Or maybe you're using a totally diferent
    driver for the Media Players?

    It's possible for example to use the on-board
    sound , built into a motherboard for the Media
    Player and still access the ASIO driver with
    your DAW.
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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 22:01:36 (permalink)
    Yea, but i could also do it with other sound cards.
    Other ASIO interfaces that have only 1 I/O
    will only allow one audio program at a time

    Not that true. I use the same I/O's for my media players. I never ever asigned an output to WMP or any other player. They all go thru outputs 1 and 2.
    Your sound card outputs have nothing to due with that. yuo may be mistaken for something else.
    Also, his error  will be fixed when he changes his settings that support the project and/or clicks share drivers
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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 22:05:44 (permalink)
    Look up "ASIO" in the SONAR help file.

    The 2nd line says it all.

    "You are limited to a single sound card when using an ASIO driver."


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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 22:11:19 (permalink)
    I know that!!! That doesn't mean you cant play a media player and then play sonar. I do it all the time in ASIO mode.
    Ive done it with a few different sound cards, even one's with one output.
    you dont need more than one output to play a WMP and sonar.

    His error is from a changed audio setting and he need sto click share drivers with other programs. Cause if he has focus in sonar it will play
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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 22:29:51 (permalink)
    CJ is right.

    I think his problem will be fixed if he sets his sample rate to what his audio interface supports, and if he selects share drivers with other programs.

    Also he can check to see if he has mixed sample rates in that particular project. He may want to make sure he's using one sample rate and if he is using more than one, all are supported by his card. I don't know if he may have imported some sample rate audio that his card can't support.


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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 22:30:22 (permalink)
    Not in the mood for an argument.

    If  I'm wrong on this then I stand corrected.

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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 22:35:48 (permalink)
    thomasabarnes


    CJ is right.

    I think his problem will be fixed if he sets his sample rate to what his audio interface supports, and if he selects share drivers with other programs.

    Also he can check to see if he has mixed sample rates in that particular project. He may want to make sure he's using one sample rate and if he is using more than one, all are supported by his card. I don't know if he may have imported some sample rate audio that his card can't support.


    Why then does the message say:

    "Device may not support the current project's audio format or may be in use.? "

    What does "or may be in use" mean?

    I know I definitely can't send more than one audio program to the same ASIO output .

    Even with the "Share Drivers" option enabled in SONAR.


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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 22:40:48 (permalink)
    Device may not support the current project's audio format or may be in use.? " What does "or may be in use" mean?

    LOL, cause he doesnt have share drivers with other programs enabled or he doesnt have focus in sonar.
    all i know is that yuo do nOT need a sound card with 2 or more stereo outs to play WMP and play sonar. Thats not true.
    Also, its most liekly a sample rate error or the sound card doesnt support the driver mode he's in, if its an onboard card.
     
    Ive been using ASIO for along time and i play WMP and sonar with no problems. with soudn cards with 1 steeo out and soudn cards with mutliple outs. Out puts DO NOT matter. His error code is from what i said above
     
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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 23:26:43 (permalink)
    Fret Wizz


    Not in the mood for an argument.

    If  I'm wrong on this then I stand corrected.


    I'm not trying to argue with you Fret...

    On 2nd thought, I don't know what's wrong on his end. I do know I can use ASIO mode in SONAR and still play WMP while SONAR is running, but that may be because my Ultralite mk3 is using another driver mode. Maybe the OPs audio interface doesn't support using more than one driver mode simultaneously.

    The OP doesn't give much info, so I'll stop speculating.


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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 23:34:58 (permalink)
    OK ... got some caffeine in me now.
    So ... to continue .....

    I just did a few tests.

    Made sure all 4 Virtual Stereo outputs on the MIA had
    "Allow Applications to take exclusive Control of this device"
    unchecked in Win 7 Sound options.

    Ran FL Studio and pointed it to "MIA Virtual 1/2"

    Loaded a tune and it played OK.

    Closed FL Studio and ran Sound Forge and assigned it to "MIA Virtual 1/2".
    Loaded a wav file and it played OK.
    Closed Sound Forge.

    Ran SONAR 8.5

    Made sure "share drivers with other programs " was enabled.
    Loaded a song and pointed the Master Outs to "MIA Virtual 1/2".

    Song played fine in SONAR.

    Closed SONAR.

    So now I have "all bases loaded" all audio progs pointing to "MIA Virtual 1/2".

    So I run FL again load the tune ... play ... no worries .. sounds good.
    Leave FL running ....

    Then I run Sound Forge and get this error message:

    BINGO!

    " The 'ASIO Echo PCI' audio device 'MIA virtual 1/2' is missing or in use by another program."

    Cancel the warning  ....
    Another dialog appears:
    "The default 'Microsoft Sound Mapper' device
    will be used until you restart Sound Forge or
    select a different device in the audio page of
    the Preferences dialog."

    So Sound Forge won't even let me access that output.

    So I close Sound Forge.... FL Studio still running....

    Open SONAR
    Load the same tune as before ...
    Sonar doesn't show a warning dialog, but there is
    no option to assign it to "MIA virtual 1/2".
    "MIA virtual 1/2" is simply not there.

    Close FL & SONAR.

    Run SONAR again.
    "MIA virtual 1/2" is now back as an option in the Master Output field.

    Leave SONAR running .... run Sound Forge again ....
    Double check it's pointing to "MIA virtual 1/2"
    Load the wav ... plays OK.

    Leave it playing

    Go back to SONAR (still assigned to "MIA virtual 1/2")
    and try to play the tune again.

    BINGO! again!

    Warning Dialog :

    "Unable to open audio playback device. Device may not support the current project's audio format or may be in use."


    Even when "Share and  allow Applications to take exclusive Control of this device"
    unchecked in the OS and "share drivers with other programs " is enabled in SONAR.


    After all that my conclusion is:

    ASIO only lets 1 program access 1 driver at a time.

    Is my logic faulty?

    What am I misunderstanding here?

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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 23:41:24 (permalink)
    Once again thanks CJ and the rest of the crew.  I put my audio setting on 192K mistaken it for 96Kh.  However when changing it back to 44.1 kept getting the message error when hitting the play. I just restarted my PC and everything worked fine again.    Thanks


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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/05 23:53:51 (permalink)
    Glad you solved it Thomas.

    Sorry if I confused you with my posts.

    I'd still like to hear back from CJ & thomasbarnes
    as to where my logic is faulty regarding the ASIO
    drivers.

    Whew!

    That's it for me on the forums today!
    One thread!
    Back to the real world!


    (I'll look in later to see if CJ has an answer for me)

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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/06 00:18:29 (permalink)
    Hi Fret...:

    I already said it may be that my audio interface is using more than one driver mode, which enables me to play audio in SONAR using ASIO driver mode, and WMP simultaneously. There is a selection in my audio interface's control panel that allows me to select to have windows audio play with Wave RT. So maybe that's why I can play SONAR audio in ASIO mode and still play WMP simultaneously.

    I'm too sleepy to go into further testing, right now.

    Cya around. :)


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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/06 00:58:31 (permalink)
    Hi Fret:

    OK this issue stayed on my mind so I went and tested it. I am able to use the same output ASIO driver in two programs simultaneously. So CJ is right. Maybe it has to do with how good an ASIO driver the manufactures of your audio interface produces. It may also be that you have to select the same sample rate as you're using in the project, in the windows control panel. I did this test with a 44.1 sample rate. I'm using a MOTU Ultralite-mk3. And Share driver with other apps is selected in SONAR.

    I started a project at 44.1 sample rate. Selected my track output as Master Bus, and selected the Master Bus to output to the ASIO Headphones output. Played the project.

    With project playing, I minimized SONAR, opened up the DR-008 StandAlone app, selected the MOTU ASIO driver and selected the Headphones output. I can play and hear the drumkit while my SONAR project is still playing.

    I used the same ASIO outputs on both programs and I got no error that an audio device or particular ASIO output is in use by another program. I'm not fussing or anything but it works here.

    Good night. I'm sleepy. :)




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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/06 01:22:21 (permalink)
    Maybe the MOTU has multiple I/O but keeps it invisible from the user?

    I dunno.

    Echo are not a 2nd rate company by any stretch and are known for the quality of their drivers.

    I notice you have the MOTU UltraLite MK3, and a Delta 1010LT.

    Which one of those did you assign SONAR to?

    Are you certain that SONAR and the  DR-008 StandAlone were assigned to the same interface?

    And are you saying they're both using ASIO?

    Is it co-incidence that both you and CJ are using a MOTU interface?

    I've got no problems with anything anybody has stated in this thread.

    Just want to clear up the confusion.

    And apologies to Thomas Jackson for hijacking his thread.

    He's probably making music right now while I'm still scratching my head over this issue.

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    Re:"Unable to open audio playback evice?" 2009/10/06 01:53:37 (permalink)
    Here's a good thread on this topic: http://forum.cakewalk.com...90&mpage=1#1754475

    Check out post # 17 in particular.


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