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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/18 21:09:09
I tried to PM you but your mailbox was full. Can you remind me what the track template issue was? There are definitely improvements with MIDI out VST's but Im not sure what you are referring to here.
Passion driven
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/18 21:13:31
simply amazing, love it guys, great work.
mistermac9
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/18 21:35:20
Does V-Vocal 1.5 have any improvements/fixes in addition to the new pitch to MIDI feature?
fastelder
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/18 21:36:44
Notation? Notation? Notation?
There was a lot about it on the survey
Conspicously absent on the promo.
????

Ed
agincourtdb
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/18 21:43:29

ORIGINAL: SleepTyght

And if you want an audio editor to accompany Sonar then you'd better add $300 to its price for Sound Forge.


Or you could get Goldwave for, what is it, $45?.
JDA
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/18 21:50:00
ORIGINAL: Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

I tried to PM you but your mailbox was full. Can you remind me what the track template issue was? There are definitely improvements with MIDI out VST's but Im not sure what you are referring to here.


Hi Noel,
Thanks for trying to PM me. It was the issue with DFHS when trying to save the mono synth output tracks in a track template, it reverts them back to stereo. Here are a few threads explaining it better.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=994736

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=960705

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1091745

Thanks! JD...
post edited by JDA - 2007/09/18 22:57:43
Editor
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/18 22:46:47
Anyone else having upgrade problems? when I get to the screen asking me to enter a qualifying serial number, I enter mine and hit Submit, but nothing at all happens.
enharmonic
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/18 23:05:18
I just searched this post (every page) for CAL and couldn't find it.

Is CAL still supported? I live in constant fear that it will be dropped.

Does anyone know?

Thanks
DigiBiu
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/18 23:36:28
OK, I try to order the upgrade, and it says my email is not correct. I have purchased Both Sonar and Dimension Pro in the past. Whats up with that?????
kitekrazy
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/18 23:58:07
I guess I'm not going to be a brown noser in this thread. I'm not sure I want to pay $229 because I balked at Sonar 6.
What happened to the upgrade to Sonar6 get 7 free deal for LOYAL Cakewalk customers?
RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/18 23:59:17
If you mean velocity compression, you've always been able to accomplish this destructively with the Event Inspector Toolbar. (I did a somewhat entertaining video to demo this once). Besides that, drum maps have a per-row velocity scaling and offset as does the new Step Sequencer.



ORIGINAL: Lin

This is fantastic! I almost hate to ask, but..... - is there MIDI compression yet?

Duojet
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 00:05:01

ORIGINAL: JDA

ORIGINAL: Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

I tried to PM you but your mailbox was full. Can you remind me what the track template issue was? There are definitely improvements with MIDI out VST's but Im not sure what you are referring to here.


Hi Noel,
Thanks for trying to PM me. It was the issue with DFHS when trying to save the mono synth output tracks in a track template, it reverts them back to stereo. Here are a few threads explaining it better.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=994736

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=960705

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1091745

Thanks! JD...



I really wish this would have been fixed in sonar6.
Frank Haas
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 00:11:55
finally sidechaining..

seems like an almost complete software-package,
with every update I ask myself how it was possible to "work" with previous versions..
a lot of features have been added that I don't want to miss anymore..
Sonar is becoming, more or less, an "all in one"-solution.. I like that, although most of us have already upgraded their (missing) softsynths/plugins in the past with cakewalk or 3rd-party-products.. so it's kind of a pain to see that previous investments could have been avoided when seeing the feature-list of Sonar7.
I've been waiting and asking for an integrated burning-feature.. great that that's been adressed now, although I wish that there'd be the possibiltiy to burn surround-projects (DVD-Audio or a more compatible DVD-Video format) within Sonar, but that might be adressed in future versions.
anyway, great job !
Frank
auricle
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 00:40:09
Does it have nested folders?
apalomba
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 00:57:12
According to Cakewalk...

"SONAR 7 Studio Edition features all the unmatched music creation tools found in SONAR 7 Producer Edition with the following exceptions: LP-64 Linear Phase Equalizer, LP-64 Multiband Compressor, VC-64 Vintage Channel, Roland V-Vocal VariPhrase technology, Z3TA+, PSYN II subtractive synth, Pentagon I analog synth, RXP groove instrument, Perfect Space Convolution Reverb, surround mixing, Sonitus Surround Compressor, POW-r Dithering, MPEX-3 Time Stretching. In addition, AudioSnap in SONAR 7 Studio Edition is limited to one track at a time processing."

So the question is should I upgrade to Sonar7 Producer or should I stick with Studio?



Anthony


Notecrusher
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 01:02:07
EXCITING:
Integrated Step Sequencer
Smart MIDI Tools
Multilane controller editing in Piano Roll view
Internal sidechaining
mastering comp

AND NOW FOR SONAR 8 *PLEASE*
A state of the art system for working w/ audio loops. The current toolset: loop explorer / loop construction view / cyclone -- quite frankly sucks. ableton excels in this area and sonar is way way behind. in fact i'd like to see live performance w/ sonar attacked overall -- sonar has some amazing capabilities in this area, but it needs buffing up for sure.

ANYWAY, I will be ordering P7 as there's a lot of great stuff there. A big thanks for listening to your user base more effectively than any software company i know.
Brian2112
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 02:14:11
Ordered! (as a I always have).

I wonder if Kontakt 2 (and soon 3) will ever properly tempo sync now? Some scripts and envelopes in K2 lose it in Sonar.

Great update (as usuall)! Ao glad to have the new midi stuff!

Brian
yevster
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 02:19:48
Hi,

Just a couple of questions (pardon my newbie-ness): The "Roland V-Vocal VariPhrase technology" that is missing from the Studio Edition - is that something like "autotune" and is the entire tool omitted or just the "VariPhrase technology," whatever that is?

Also, could you please post the system requirements? Or at least how they compare to the already posted requirements for Sonar 6?

Once again, sorry for the stupid questions - I haven't used a full version of SONAR longer than a few hours, but judging from the excitement around here - this may be a time to start.
jabdo56
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 02:24:18
I don't see Session Drummer 2. Is it not included?
auricle
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 02:27:46

ORIGINAL: jabdo56

I don't see Session Drummer 2. Is it not included?


Scott Garrigus of Sonar 6 (and 7) Power book fame confirmed that Session Drummer 2 is still included.
jabdo56
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 02:30:59

ORIGINAL: auricle


ORIGINAL: jabdo56

I don't see Session Drummer 2. Is it not included?


Scott Garrigus of Sonar 6 (and 7) Power book fame confirmed that Session Drummer 2 is still included.


Excellent. Thanks.
bosone
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 03:07:17
finally!
it took 7 sonar version and 9 cakeealk version to think about the controller lane separation... ;-)
montezuma
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 03:31:07

ORIGINAL: Marketing [Cakewalk]


ORIGINAL: montezuma

Anyone know if you can upgrade from "Guitar Tracks Pro 2"?


Yes you can


Well that's great...I'll have to look into how I go about doing that. I bought GTP2 here in Australia from Harvey Norman, an electrical/ computer/ white goods type chain. Registered in 2003.
SF_Green
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 03:54:30
Ordered! Thanks guys
ChristopherM
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 04:34:42
Darn, I just bought Z3TA+ this summer too not to mention that I bought Rapture last summer.


I bought +Z3ta last week. Given that the download price is well over half the upgrade price from S6PE to S7PE, I am feeling not so good about the value for money aspect of this upgrade. In principle, it seems no different to the situation of someone who bought S6 last week, and they get a special deal, so I am hoping that CW will find a fair way of handling this.
cmusicmaker
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 04:53:25
This is a MAJOR upgrade!
ragi comar
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 06:48:41
congratulations
KyleB
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 07:22:37
thanks !!! i wonder if Britney Spears can use some of these upgrades...

sorry for the fowl shot...
Saintom
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 07:46:12

ORIGINAL: KyleB

thanks !!! i wonder if Britney Spears can use some of these upgrades...

sorry for the fowl shot...


Becareful what you say about her
Twigman
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 08:15:39
Does Reason still show up with L&R channels on each rewire channel [if all synth outputs is selected when inserting Reason as a rewire device], despite these being MONO outputs from Reason?
Gerry
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 08:29:56


I got a mail saying.

Thank you for your recent purchase from Cakewalk.com

After I purchased an update from sonar 6 PE to 7 PE last night. On the same mail it said:

If your product requires a serial number and/or registration code those codes are now visible in your estore account. Log in to your account at http://store.cakewalk.com/ and click the 'My Registrations' link in the 'My Account' area.

Being a good boy and doing as I am asked I go to the Estore again log into my account and there is no record of me having purchased Sonar 7 and of course no registration numbers.

Not sure its because I live in Europe but not one single purchase from Cake has ever gone as it should have done. This one looks like no exception, mail sent to Cake support last night with a sigh of here we go again


Oh and the big RIP OFF Upgrade price in Euros 170 bearing in mind its $179 in the States.
Want to know how much that is in Euros at todays exchange rates

179.00 USD = 128.184 EUR
United States Dollars Euro
1 USD = 0.716113 EUR 1 EUR = 1.39643 USD

OK I get hit for transport costs at $21 which takes my invoice price to €191 but can someone explain to me at CAKE how you can justify a taking $50 dollars over the exchange rate? Fluctuation in the rates OK allow a 10% hike anything else my friends is as close to a rip off as you can get.

Do you have something against foreign users as it certainly can't be translation costs as I ordered the English version?

Unless of course there are hidden charges that are not shown on the statement -

SubTotal: EUR 170
Tax: EUR 0
Shipping: EUR 21
Handling: EUR 0
Gift Wrap: EUR 0
Grand Total: EUR 191


Gerry





post edited by Gerry - 2007/09/19 09:37:28
krizrox
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 09:21:58
couldn't wait - had to order. The voices in my head made me do it.
D K
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 09:29:30

ORIGINAL: Duojet


ORIGINAL: JDA

ORIGINAL: Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

I tried to PM you but your mailbox was full. Can you remind me what the track template issue was? There are definitely improvements with MIDI out VST's but Im not sure what you are referring to here.


Hi Noel,
Thanks for trying to PM me. It was the issue with DFHS when trying to save the mono synth output tracks in a track template, it reverts them back to stereo. Here are a few threads explaining it better.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=994736

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=960705

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1091745

Thanks! JD...



I really wish this would have been fixed in sonar6.



Looks like a nice solid upgrade - I was hoping for a fix for this too so that I could use BFD properly with Jamstix2 as a VST - I use it as a DXI right now and it is fine but a VST implementation would be more versatile.

I am also hoping that ACT templates have been expanded for more hardware then I see listed but on the face of it looks like a solid workman like upgrade and that's great! - Good Job Cake!!
Dickie Fredericks
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 09:32:30
Gee I just upgraded to Sonar 6 last week. Now why didnt the sales person tell me to wait a week?

Guess Ill skip through till 8 comes out.

hehe Oh wait... free upgrade LOL
post edited by Dickie Fredericks - 2007/09/19 09:41:46
yevster
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 10:31:08

ORIGINAL: yevster

Hi,

Just a couple of questions (pardon my newbie-ness): The "Roland V-Vocal VariPhrase technology" that is missing from the Studio Edition - is that something like "autotune" and is the entire tool omitted or just the "VariPhrase technology," whatever that is?

Also, could you please post the system requirements? Or at least how they compare to the already posted requirements for Sonar 6?

Once again, sorry for the stupid questions - I haven't used a full version of SONAR longer than a few hours, but judging from the excitement around here - this may be a time to start.


One other question: will there be a crossgrade option for S7? And if so, what competitors' application will be covered?

Thanks a lot.
tombuur
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 10:40:50
For the first time in five years I am not going to upgrade.

I have better plugins than those included (Sonnox, UAD, Melodyne, Kontakt ....). So there is very little new and useful here. Anyway, I have mainly used another DAW program for the last two years.
mancelot
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 10:43:25

ORIGINAL: tombuur

For the first time in five years I am not going to upgrade.

I have better plugins than those included (Sonnox, UAD, Melodyne, Kontakt ....). So there is very little new and useful here. Anyway, I have mainly used another DAW program for the last two years.

Which DAW?
KyleB
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 11:44:54
sidenote:

twigman, you know Reason 4 ships on 26 Sept !!!
kitekrazy
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 11:57:11

ORIGINAL: KyleB

sidenote:

twigman, you know Reason 4 ships on 26 Sept !!!


Yeah and Propeller Heads gave everyone a heads up a new version would be out. Back in August if you bought Reason 3 they would give you Reason 4 when it's released.
Twigman
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 12:04:34
ORIGINAL: KyleB

sidenote:

twigman, you know Reason 4 ships on 26 Sept !!!



Does that use stereo rewire channels?

Expensive month this - and my motorcycle needs new tyres too - and the wife crashed her car into our house
post edited by Twigman - 2007/09/19 12:14:29
kitekrazy
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 12:35:44

ORIGINAL: Twigman

ORIGINAL: KyleB

sidenote:

twigman, you know Reason 4 ships on 26 Sept !!!



Does that use stereo rewire channels?

Expensive month this - and my motorcycle needs new tyres too - and the wife crashed her car into our house


And probably some of the other software you have is announcing upgrades. Kind of makes it difficult where to put your $$
Maneswar
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 13:55:58
Does anyone know where I need to go to officially change my contact info so I can receive emails from Cakewalk? I used to get them without fail, but I moved in April and I've been far to worried about other things to bother with this, si it didn't get taken care of. Now that the S7 is out, I want the email corrected before I place any orders.

Thank you kindly.

Maneswar
RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 14:05:10
Unfortunately this fix didn't make it into the S7 release but we have identified the issue and it will be fixed soon. Thanks for your patience.

ORIGINAL: JDA

Brandon & Noel,
I agree with everyone else that S7 looks very impressive. Can you can confirm if the Track Template VSTi Mono Outputs issue has been addressed in S7?

Thanks! JD...



trevia
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 14:16:15
Maneswar,

Sign in to the cakewalk store (using your old address if that is how you are registered) and you can update your info there.

Jeff
post edited by trevia - 2007/09/19 14:26:03
Passion driven
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 14:18:58
Get a e-mail tomorrow or today???it says tomorrow but it said that yesterday and i haven't got a e-mail. to bad i got this on the 29th because two days and it would have been free.
Benny Bear
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 14:20:32
Sorry very busy at the moment, but is the minimum spec (Sonar 7) published anywhere as my computer is on the cutting edge of technology - the lower, blunt edge that is!
GuyPicks
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 14:24:46
Just ordered.
Keep up the good work CAKE and thanks for the great customer support.
plainfaced
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 14:37:44
I CANT WAIT

IM SO EXCITED AND I JUST CANT HIDE IT. IM ABOUT TO LOSE CONTROL AND I THINK I LIKE IT. I LIKE IT
GuitarG
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 15:26:53
Incredible list of new features. Great work guys. I'll be ordering my upgrade this evening.
JDA
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 15:41:30
Noel,
Thanks for checking into it for us. I feel confident that you guys will get is worked out soon and I'll go ahead and make the S7 purchase. I'm looking forward to all the new midi enhancements and once this gets fixed it should be one heck of an update.

Thanks! JD...


ORIGINAL: Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

Unfortunately this fix didn't make it into the S7 release but we have identified the issue and it will be fixed soon. Thanks for your patience.

ORIGINAL: JDA

Brandon & Noel,
I agree with everyone else that S7 looks very impressive. Can you can confirm if the Track Template VSTi Mono Outputs issue has been addressed in S7?

Thanks! JD...




montezuma
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 15:41:32

ORIGINAL: Saintom


ORIGINAL: KyleB

thanks !!! i wonder if Britney Spears can use some of these upgrades...

sorry for the fowl shot...


Becareful what you say about her


Oh boy, I had to turn that off after about 7 seconds
Jose7822
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 15:48:30

ORIGINAL: montezuma


ORIGINAL: Saintom


ORIGINAL: KyleB

thanks !!! i wonder if Britney Spears can use some of these upgrades...

sorry for the fowl shot...


Becareful what you say about her


Oh boy, I had to turn that off after about 7 seconds




LOL Me too.
Duojet
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 17:00:26

ORIGINAL: Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

Unfortunately this fix didn't make it into the S7 release but we have identified the issue and it will be fixed soon. Thanks for your patience.

ORIGINAL: JDA

Brandon & Noel,
I agree with everyone else that S7 looks very impressive. Can you can confirm if the Track Template VSTi Mono Outputs issue has been addressed in S7?

Thanks! JD...






noel, any chance of a fix for this in Sonar6?
riley4reason
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 17:49:42
I bought Sonar PE6 in September, will the free upgrade be a download or will it be shipped?

Thanks! Riley
digitaleagle12
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 18:29:41
Nice release. I too would like to see some enhancements to Notation.
I purchased Sonar 6 in August and have not yet seen an e-mail for the special upgrade price.
I plan on upgrading to Sonar 7.
synthmann
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 18:34:11
just ordered my upgrade! can't wait to use the step sequencer and masterings plug-ins! the added vst's are a nice bonus in the ongoing search for fresh sounds :)
Passion driven
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 18:58:11
Has anyone that bought sonar 6 pe in august received the e-mail about a upgrade? i got it the 29th so i should qualify for that. But haven't received anything.
JimThompson
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 19:09:16
This looks great, one question,

Are there any educational discounts offered for the upgrade from Sonar 6 PE to Sonar 7 PE?

Thanks,
Jim

I'm posting here now in hopes that a Cakewalker will see it :)
Fred S
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 19:31:38
ORIGINAL: Passion driven

Has anyone that bought sonar 6 pe in august received the e-mail about a upgrade? i got it the 29th so i should qualify for that. But haven't received anything.

Bought it in August. No email yet.

Edit: I think they haven't decided yet how much to charge us. Expect your email on Thursday or "at the latest on Friday".
post edited by Fred S - 2007/09/19 19:53:54
Maneswar
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List 2007/09/19 20:09:37
Thanks Trevia, I'll try that.

Maneswar
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