Poodle
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/22 12:48:38
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I love the step sequencer and the all the new plugins + easy sidechaining. ORIGINAL: Gerry What's a Mac apart from a raincoat? Too true! As for those white boxes wiht apple logos, they've always scared me because they look like there will jump out a teddybear or a dolphin any minute!
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Orubasarot
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2007/09/22 15:46:26
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jweldinger
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/22 16:31:17
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Your hard work is appreciated, but sadly I still see no improvements to Staff View and the ability to print professional scores. C'mon, how difficult can it be to code in support for Coda, Intelligent Repeats, and Alternate Endings, and improved Tuplets. Customizable, non-standard key signatures would be nice as well, for instance the ability to create a key with A, E, and F sharps (A#,B,C,D,E#,F#,G). I think I'm going to have to skip this upgrade and spend the money on Finale Allegro instead. Thanks, Joe
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/22 16:39:02
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Shipping? Really? How come mine which was ordered within hours of the announcement is still pending? I was told Friday that it was shipping that day, well it looks like they were wrong. If I don't see it on it's way Monday, I'll be sticking with S6PE until next year and Sonar 8. And, for those of you who want to tell me to have patience, sorry I used that up with Musicians Friend who I don't do business with anymore since they couldn't get anything shipped in a timely manner.
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/22 19:25:49
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What does the "integerated step sequencer" mean in implementation. Does it replace Session Drummer 1 in the sense that one can have a drum track running in the background either with or without looping/recording, synced in tempo to the (recording) audio track (eliminating copy/paste MIDI measures? That is, is it an intelligent click track (among other things)? I'm not exactly how it works (I can already program a MIDI measure and copy/paste it)? There's a video and description on this page which I believe may help. All the best, Brendan.
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/23 05:12:17
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Does this version now have usable midi time stretch with quantize, or, still the same "fit improvisation" which I cannot figure how to use? Thanks.
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2007/09/23 06:14:42
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Did they finally fix the audio gap problem?
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/23 13:20:27
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More improvements! Yay! Ordered the upgrade today - Love the new step writer. That'll save me $179 in time easy Is there any plan to improve (at some time) the way drum tracks are handled? Like - insert audio, midi or DRUM track Then the piano roll brings up the drums hit with velocity tails, the left column shows the percussion instrument rather than the piano keys? The instruments are GM2 as a default, a pull down offers a drum map selection (Groove Agent, EZ Drummer, etc). Other programs do this, Sonar has this involved process to get the left hand instrument list, the drum hit icons AND being able to actually hear the kit Or am I missing something? Brammer Sonar 6.2.1 (soon to be 7), Intel E6600, 3 gig 800 Mhz RAM, 2 320 Sata drives, Real Guitar, Real Strat, EZ Drummer
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2007/09/23 20:54:59
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I just found the video and immediately ordered it. Thanks, Chuck ORIGINAL: brendantownsend What does the "integerated step sequencer" mean in implementation. Does it replace Session Drummer 1 in the sense that one can have a drum track running in the background either with or without looping/recording, synced in tempo to the (recording) audio track (eliminating copy/paste MIDI measures? That is, is it an intelligent click track (among other things)? I'm not exactly how it works (I can already program a MIDI measure and copy/paste it)? There's a video and description on this page which I believe may help. All the best, Brendan.
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NewJazzSyndicate
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/24 19:13:50
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I'm suprised more people aren't jumping for joy over the external effects plug-in feature.... I know it's THE selling point for me... no more "work-arounds" with routing things from a channel, over to a bus, then back to a different channel.... We can finally route the signal as it's supposed to be, without all the "work-around" clutter... Thank You Cakewalk!!! Sincerely, Karsten J. Chikuri
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/25 09:33:13
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ORIGINAL: NewJazzSyndicate I'm suprised more people aren't jumping for joy over the external effects plug-in feature.... I know it's THE selling point for me... no more "work-arounds" with routing things from a channel, over to a bus, then back to a different channel.... We can finally route the signal as it's supposed to be, without all the "work-around" clutter... Thank You Cakewalk!!! Sincerely, Karsten J. Chikuri Amen... can't wait to use my outboard gear as 'plug-ins'!
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2007/09/25 10:38:08
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It's probably because more and more people are recording and mixing in the box these days. I'm sure this is especially true for home recording users who don't have the need to invest a lot of money in outboard gear. Scott -- Scott R. Garrigus - Author of Cakewalk, Sound Forge 6, 7/8 and SONAR 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Power books. ** Get Sonar 6 Power & Sound Forge 8 Power - Today! ** http://www.garrigus.com/ Publisher of DigiFreq. Win a free Absynth 3 or Kontakt 2 DVD Tutorial and learn cool music technology tips and techniques by getting a FREE subscription to DigiFreq... over 20,000 readers can't be wrong! Go to: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/25 11:56:28
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ORIGINAL: enharmonic No response to my inquiry about CAL. Am I the only one who thinks this is important? Anyone have any info about whether CAL is still supported in Sonar 7? thanks! Sorry your question got left behind in the rush. CAL's still there.
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dantarbill
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/25 12:02:29
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ORIGINAL: davidstallard So what's the difference between Rapture and Rapture LE? I don't know if I would be happy with Rapture LE or if I would still want the full-blown Rapture. Rapture LE is essentially Rapture without a lot of its editability AND without a lot of the presets that Rapture ships with (but you STILL get to mess with its step generator). (I think you can manage to get more presets by downloading the Rapture demo though.)
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2007/09/25 12:37:31
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I found sonar 6 was the best with the most. I did the 5-6PE buy last year just before 6 came out and have never looked back. 64bit now, xp pro I don't use a lot of midi as all of my recording is with the instruments that I play. (sonar 7s main upgrade from what I see) I have the key boards connected with midi but I cant see getting sonar 7 for just a few enhancements. (besides I still haven't mastered the audio-snap and ACT controls) or synths....or....... and from the list below I have lots to play with, ... to master some of them, thats a challenge. Ubgrade to Sonar 7, Naa Ill wait till they can say Sonar Pro we have all the tools
bwmac ASUS M2N-E bios-10 AMD 64 X2 6000 ~ 4G 800 DDR2 windows XP PRO 64 EDITION SONAR 6 PRODUCER MOTU 828 mkll. ITS A LONG WAY TO THE TOP, IF YOU ROCK AND ROLL Its not about the money, Its about the music.
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Legion
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/25 14:36:50
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Ordered my copy of Sonar 7PE a couple of minutes ago and have this twinkly feeling now waiting for it to arrive, like a small child waiting for christmas morning
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Arglebargle
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/26 11:07:35
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wow. is there any other DAW that is so aggressively and routinely updated like Sonar? it's absolutely amazing.
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Arglebargle
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/26 11:25:54
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oh and I'm totally stoked about the step sequencer. I've never been completely happy with having to program drums in the piano roll. I've gotten used to it but a step sequencer would be even easier.
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NewJazzSyndicate
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/26 15:28:51
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Well - it looks like I'll probably be upgrading my system in the near future... On my main DAW - a custom-built Mid-Tower system with a Pentium 4 2.4 ghz, 1 gb of RAM, 2 200 GB hard drives, and a MOTU 2408 mk II... I can't get through the demo song ("Room for Clarity") without the system dropping out.... I can get through if I bypass all the plug-ins... or if I jack the latency way up ( 21.3 ms). I tried it on my laptop system, which is fairly new - a Celeron M 1.87 ghz, 512 mb of RAM, 1 80 gb SATA internal drive and a 300gb external USB 2.0 drive, and a Fast Track Pro USB 2.0 audio/midi interface.... If I run the project off the internal drive - it'll dropout fairly quickly... with the external drive, I can get all the way through without a dropout. I can run the same project in Sonar 6 and the high track count and effects don't seem to pose a problem - as it will play the project through. The performance hit in Sonar 7 is just enough to send my system over the edge when running this demo project.... which, admittedly, does contain quite a few more tracks and simultaneous plug-ins than I would probably encounter in the majority of my projects. So -- I'm wondering... Should I start looking at dual or quad core??? Sincerely, Karsten J. Chikuri
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NewJazzSyndicate
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2007/09/26 19:48:52
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Ok - I've been able to (sort of) get things going in Sonar 7 on my main DAW system... please see my post immediately above for details... What I had to do was: 1) Print all the softsynth tracks as audio... then delete the soft synths from the SynthRack... 2) I disabled the LM64 Mastering Compressor. (Who uses a mastering processor when mixing anyways???) Please note - for those don't already know this -- LM64 is SERIOUS resource hog! Granted, it's gonna be because of the quality of the processing involved... Which makes it more important to remember that this is a MASTERING processor... not a compressor you really should be doing at the mix stage. Oh well... Softsynths would unlikely be a problem for me - as I do most of my softsynth work on a seperate computer, and just record the midi tracks on the main DAW. Still contemplating putting together a quad-core system for my new DAW... Anyone have suggestions? Sincerely, Karsten J. Chikuri
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2007/09/27 03:42:33
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There's a lot of good stuff in there - but, sob - why is'nt there any updates to the score editor? The staff view is older than some of the users in here - don't think it has been altered since Cakewalk 8 ( maybe its even older? ). Is'nt it time to bring the staff view into this century?
best regards Bjarne Kristiansen
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2007/09/27 10:01:30
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hi. sorry for my english:( i bought sonar 5 studio last year and now i would like to know if i can buy the update sonar 7studio even if i didn't bought the update sonar 6 studio ???... tks and sorry for my poor english !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! regards.
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2007/09/27 10:08:54
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Cakewalks customer service sucks. I ordered my upgrade to Sonar 7 about 10 days ago. I have a serial and registration number but no product. I have e-mailed them numerous times and all I get is the standard - check back with our website message. I tried calling them twice - each time I was on hold for over two hours and then got hung up on. If this is how they treat a paying customer - next time I'm going to think twice before sending them any of my money.
Best Regards, Dave Win 7 64, HP Elite Laptop with Dual Core Intel I5, 8GB RAM, 3 Drives, (2-TB's total), Delta 66 audio interface, Midiman 8x8s, Sonar X3C 64bit, Project 5, Reason 7, Reaper 64bit, Kurzweil PC3X, Korg M50, Yamaha CS2X,Roland Gaia, Yamaha Motif XS Rack, Rhodes MK-80 , Adam A7 monitors, tons of software vst's.
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2007/09/27 10:19:17
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I am sooooooo glad I didn't dispose of my outboard effects......!!!! I didn't get 6...but this looks real interesting..... Mike G.....
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b7
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2007/09/27 10:22:08
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but did you had the sonar 5 ou 6 ??? i 'm in france and i can buy the update only on line.... tks regards
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Plyrman
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2007/09/27 10:27:23
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5 PE .....(it's in my signature)...... Mike G.
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2007/09/27 10:31:02
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ok..sorry i'did not see your signature. i'm a new member..... so it's possible. i ll do that just right now ! hope i'll dont have any problem like digitaleagle!
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RE: SONAR 7 Now Shipping - Product Feature List
2007/09/29 13:43:40
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took the plunge ordered Sonar 7 and Dimension Pro and the Rapture upgrade. waiting on the arrival of my new toys!
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2007/09/29 15:03:00
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ORIGINAL: NewJazzSyndicate 1) Print all the softsynth tracks as audio... then delete the soft synths from the SynthRack... Karsten J. Chikuri Instead, you really just need to freeze the tracks. This will automatically convert them to audio and disconnect the synths from the audio engine. Also, raising latency during mixdown is actually the correct thing to do because it allows more effects/synth plug-ins to be used. Don't be afraid to raise it to 100ms or even higher if you need it. Scott -- Scott R. Garrigus - Author of Cakewalk, Sound Forge 6, 7/8 and SONAR 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Power books. ** Get Sonar 6 Power & Sound Forge 8 Power - Today! ** http://www.garrigus.com/ Publisher of DigiFreq. Win a free Absynth 3 or Kontakt 2 DVD Tutorial and learn cool music technology tips and techniques by getting a FREE subscription to DigiFreq... over 20,000 readers can't be wrong! Go to: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
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NewJazzSyndicate
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2007/09/29 17:14:49
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Dear Scott, First off - thanks for responding to my query on this forum. You're presence here is very much appreciated! Yes - I COULD raise the latency to correct the problem -- and, that works well as I would only have to raise to about 40ms (roughly) for all the drop-outs and hiccups to stop. That's ok for post-production -- but, what if I wanted to add another track or two on top of this (already pretty bloated) project? The increased latency would make monitoring (playback and live input) an adventure unto itself! Oh - and yes, Freezing the tracks do help -- I also gave that a try, but forgot to mention it. It's just wierd that all of sudden, my laptop (Celeron M 1.87 ghz) is now out-performing my main DAW (Pentium 4 2.4 ghz) Sincerely, Karsten J. Chikuri
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