SONAR - Slighted?

Perhaps because all your examples involve drum apps and Addictive Drums was a free part of the last update.  So those libraries might have written off Sonar 'cause of that.  Most Sonar users might be focusing on Addictive Drums, 

Jimbo 88
Perhaps because all your examples involve drum apps and Addictive Drums was a free part of the last update.  So those libraries might have written off Sonar 'cause of that.  Most Sonar users might be focusing on Addictive Drums, 

Actually, not all of my examples are drum related.
 
"The RAVEN MTX is a state of the art touch screen display featuring the RAVEN MIXER – A powerful multitouch mixer that can control all major DAW’s – And a flexible and user-customizable, multifunction TOOLBAR. The RAVEN also incorporates a full-featured analog monitoring section designed for today’s audio engineer, with multiple speaker outs and input sources, smart phone connectivity, USB, multiple headphone send and cue options, and much more. But at the heart of the RAVEN MTX is the most important thing of all… Your DAW, right at your fingertips."

FWIW, every time I run the VST scan, Addictive Drums comes up with a problem and the scanner wants to know if I want to disable it.  I enter "No" and at the end of the scan, the VST scanner crashes.  (Yes, I have already done a online installer repair for Addictive Drums 1.)  The only thing I can come up with for a reason is that I tried the AD2 demo and uninstalled it and maybe, I wrecked some registry setting.  Eventually, I'll clean my hard drive and registry of AD entries and install it again.
 
So, I don't think CW leans towards Addictive Drums exclusively.  I just think there are problems that aren't addressed because they are missed in testing.
 
 

I have the Slate FG-X and it has some issues in Sonar (specifically saving presets).
Didn't the Slate drums have some issues at one time? (in Sonar)
Groove3 has plenty of Sonar tutorials.
As to Toon, evidently there were not enough Sonar users in the beta tests.
 
Tom
 
Whats AD?
Even with the issues, you'll have to pry EZD2 from my dead cold fingers!
Just sayin'...
 

Goooler
Currently Raven is only an Apple friendly program.
They say it will be Windows compatible in the next release.
 
FYI

Apple and Pro Tools. 

Makes sense.  If you are going to market to the most potential customers, why target a product that has a $2500.00 price point at a SONAR user base that touts the included plugins as a major value and already has touch screen capabilities.

It's obvious to me why the SONAR GUI is the way it is (spread out) - to make for ease of touch screen use.

Cake has led the "charge" on a lot of things.
"Touch" is the "cause du jour", that's fine.
Control surfaces aren't really "broken", but certainly have been "ignored".
They led the charge there; I had one of the Peavy "Cakewalk" units.
Personally I "hate" touch, had an "experience" with the wife's iPhone yesterday.
Sonar gets ignored; what else is new?
 
T

DeeringAmps
"Touch" is the "cause du jour", that's fine.

personally, it's not fine for me, as the whole gui has been re-jigged to support touch, whether i have a touch screen or not, at the expense of non-touch users
furthermore, and imho, i believe touch to be useful on small devices (tabs & phones) but at the desktop level i think it's a solution looking for issues... just because we can doesn't mean we should...

Guitarmech111

amiller
 
1)  EZDrummer 2 compatibility issue not being addressed by Toontrack.

What is the compatibility issue you speak of? Got a link? I have not run into any issues so far.

that's to do with version 2 having more outputs that v1, sonar can't swap number of outs on the fly so can't handle projects started with v1 but then opened after v2 is installed?

lawp: Airbags were developed at the cost of non-airbag vehicles, but they ended being a good thing - right?
 
Would you rather be an innovator or an adopter? Ask those who use Pro Tools that question.
 
 

hockeyjxlawp: Airbags were developed at the cost of non-airbag vehicles, but they ended being a good thing - right?

that doesn't mean everything is good - right? we regularly get new ways of doing stuff in software, and hardware, but we don't necessarily use them... but the big companies would like to make some of their r&d money back, so let's go with that solution for a couple of years... i'm waiting on holograms ;-)

Guitarmech111

lawp

Guitarmech111

amiller
 
1)  EZDrummer 2 compatibility issue not being addressed by Toontrack.

What is the compatibility issue you speak of? Got a link? I have not run into any issues so far.

that's to do with version 2 having more outputs that v1, sonar can't swap number of outs on the fly so can't handle projects started with v1 but then opened after v2 is installed?

I would get an official word from Cakewalk before blaming Toontrack on this. I don't think there are any other hosts having this issue as far as I know.

from what i read on the forum regarding ezd2, it seems the most likely cause? i'm not trying to blame anyone in particular but just understand what's going on :-) anyway, no one supplier/vendor will blame another as it does neither any good in the marketplace

CakeAlexS
Doe not really matter what anybody thinks. The fondleslab market is too big to ignore, and desktops are shrinking (too big to ignore as well). And it is possible to have a good UI to accommodate for desktops and fondleslabs. So win win providing Cake designs X4 well. I think there's gonna be a lot of pressure to get X4 right I do hope they miss a release cycle to do it.

you may as well go over to apple now ;-)

Mod Bod
FWIW, every time I run the VST scan, Addictive Drums comes up with a problem and the scanner wants to know if I want to disable it.  I enter "No" and at the end of the scan, the VST scanner crashes.  (Yes, I have already done a online installer repair for Addictive Drums 1.)  The only thing I can come up with for a reason is that I tried the AD2 demo and uninstalled it and maybe, I wrecked some registry setting.  Eventually, I'll clean my hard drive and registry of AD entries and install it again.
 
So, I don't think CW leans towards Addictive Drums exclusively.  I just think there are problems that aren't addressed because they are missed in testing.
 
 

This happens to me if I try to open Sonar X2a, but not with X3e. Everything is good here with EZD2 and AD2. I have not tried opening any older projects, but they are done and don't need opened. Dodged a bullet I guess.

Anderton

mmorgan
The only thing I have mild concern about is Cakewalk remaining a financially sound firm and given the interaction on this forum my guess is it will.

Cakewalk is doing fine, thanks to a loyal user base and X3 being a great release. On any list of things to be concerned about, Cakewalk going out of business is so far down the list it can't be seen by the naked eye. 
 
Resources still need to catch up, so we can't accelerate the process of moving forward as fast as we'd like...it takes a while to ramp up new hires and such to find the right people. But there's a lot of excitement at Cakewalk these days, and plans are being put in place for what I think will be a very bright future.

Craig just to be clear: I wasn't trying to imply that I felt Cakewalk was in any kind of financial danger. I was addressing that whether Cakewalk was mentioned or not (i.e. slighted) simply doesn't matter and, as I stated, given the robust interaction on this forum it seems to me as being highly unlikely that there is any distress at Cakewalk.
 
Regards,
 

In answer to the question, I have more than one thread out here about EZ Drummer 2 issues. Sweetwater can replicate my problems easily by following the same scenarios.  Toontrack and Cakewalk acknowledge the issue.  Toontrack says it is waiting on Cakewalk to get back to them.  I don't know Cakewalk's position on this.
 
Issues (and there may be others):
• In a project that had EZ Drummer 1, after the upgrade to EZ Drummer 2, opening the drum interface will break the soft synth routings.  You can usually fix this by splitting instrument tracks and rerouting—but see the problems below.
• Many frozen synths cannot be unfrozen and therefore the routing can't be fixed.
• Synths do not freeze reliably.
• The project will lose either 1-audio from several of the soft synths or 2-all audio output (even though you see meters moving).  Once the project is corrupted, I know of no way to fix it.