SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools?

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    Rain
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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/18 14:54:08 (permalink)
    Well, w/o the powered plug-ins, all that's left is an audio interface.

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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/18 15:02:38 (permalink)
    A VERY expensive audio interface - however, with optional sync and transfer cards - that are VERY Expensive.

    Not sure if they sound so nice that it would be worth it.

    However, now you can take your Sonar sessions into a Pro Tools eqiupped studio! Just bring your own software and take advantage of the facilities

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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/18 15:16:21 (permalink)
    I think it's way cooler the other way around - you can use Pro Tools w/ the built-in audio device on your laptop.

    In theory. 

    Just expect the worst performance you can imagine. But, hey, if you feel like doing something totally retro, you're in to experience something that'll remind you of the good old Pro Audio 8 days on a PII 350 w/ 128 mb RAM. ;)

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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/18 15:19:55 (permalink)
    Speaking of which; remember when it was thought we'd never need more that 20MB hard drive?
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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/18 15:24:55 (permalink)
    I remember running the OS + all the software on a 6GB drive, which also served as the audio drive. True, I had a few of those cutting edge 120 mb floppy disks to archive some of those projects. ;)

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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/18 16:59:08 (permalink)
    If I only had enough money I would own it all and then I would be super cool for running sonar x2 connected to a pro tools hd with a v 700 ..... 

    Then...I would have it going on and all the chicks would dig me and I could watch the chosen one mud wrestle them on pay per view .... The winner would get a recording session with sonar and pro tools hd ...



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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/20 17:22:28 (permalink)
    bapu


    It seems so

    That's so old it ain't even funny. PT 8.5? Gimme a break. ProTools 10 has been out for close to a year. You could at least cite an article that was a little more recent if you want to talk about what is arguably the best daw out there - and I ain't talking about Sonar. When my Windoze machine died I went full time to PT on a Mac and it's been heaven ever since. None of the routing issues Sonar has. And automation - way better than anything Sonar ever had or will have.


    As far as Sonar as a front end for PT - not happening. DAE which allowed that to happen (and it never was with Sonar but Digital Performer and I think Logic) died a long time ago somewheres with PT 8.


    Oh yeah - you don't even need that card to run PT anymore. Long about PT9 Avid uncoupled the hardware and software. You can run PT with any audio that has the proper drivers. That's ASIO on Windoze and core audio on Mac OSX. Sure you don't have the huge I/O HD Native or HDX cards give you but for the average recordist you don't need that, and certainly not for those working out of their bedrooms. And you don't have the dsp like on HDX cards but with a modern powerful computer that's a non-issue. Want a killer setup for PT that doesn't cost an arm/leg/first born male child - plain vanilla PT10 with a UA Apollo. Enough I/O for a lot of people and lightning fast dsp available on input with no real latency.
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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/20 17:27:05 (permalink)
    He's not arguing about the best DAW out there .... He's just showing how to use Any DAW as a front end to PT HD .... Ad that particular article isn't THAT old

    It's just a rid bit Bapu was throwing out there ... Sme info ... 911 .... Some juice ... Gossip , ... Here it is ... This is that .... 


    Some people didn't know 

    K? 


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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/20 17:38:22 (permalink)
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    He's not arguing about the best DAW out there .... He's just showing how to use Any DAW as a front end to PT HD .... Ad that particular article isn't THAT old

    It's just a rid bit Bapu was throwing out there ... Sme info ... 911 .... Some juice ... Gossip , ... Here it is ... This is that .... 


    Some people didn't know 

    K? 


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    That article is old - 2 years and a couple of versions of ProTools old. You can't really use any daw as a front end to PT since some version of PT8. The most you can do is to create your MIDI in another daw and import that into PT or maybe import your audio tracks into PT - of course the latter depends on having used bwf as your audio format. That really doesn't count on using any daw as a front end to PT. To me using something as a front end means dealing with that piece of software or hardware as your data entry point and not the end program (PT in this case).



    Then again here's one of the reasons I really don't come around here much any more - seeing certain posters as they're the be-all and end-all of anything.

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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/20 17:41:53 (permalink)
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    Mooch4056


    He's not arguing about the best DAW out there .... He's just showing how to use Any DAW as a front end to PT HD .... Ad that particular article isn't THAT old

    It's just a rid bit Bapu was throwing out there ... Sme info ... 911 .... Some juice ... Gossip , ... Here it is ... This is that .... 


    Some people didn't know 

    K? 


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    That article is old - 2 years and a couple of versions of ProTools old. You can't really use any daw as a front end to PT since some version of PT8. The most you can do is to create your MIDI in another daw and import that into PT or maybe import your audio tracks into PT - of course the latter depends on having used bwf as your audio format. That really doesn't count on using any daw as a front end to PT. To me using something as a front end means dealing with that piece of software or hardware as your data entry point and not the end program (PT in this case).



    Then again here's one of the reasons I really don't come around here much any more - seeing certain posters as they're the be-all and end-all of anything.

    Ya, Mooch is kind of a big deal around here.
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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/20 18:48:52 (permalink)
    Two years is now old?  Dang...  And here I am still getting by with Sonar Producer 4...

    (Of course, the last movie I saw in a theater was the premiere of the Rock, so I tend to lose a lot of time somewhere!)

     
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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/20 20:55:52 (permalink)
    I used to use Pro Tools as a front end for Reaper! Well, in terms of hosting my instruments in Reaper and controlling them via Pro Tools. Because that's the only way I could use Pro Tools without the thing choking every 5 minutes. 

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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/20 21:40:56 (permalink)
    Should work with Sonar is what they said.

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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/20 22:17:33 (permalink)
    sharke


    I used to use Pro Tools as a front end for Reaper! Well, in terms of hosting my instruments in Reaper and controlling them via Pro Tools. Because that's the only way I could use Pro Tools without the thing choking every 5 minutes. 

    Noticed that too, uh?


    I like mixing in Pro Tools, and I actually like some of those AIR instruments quite a bit (the good news being that they'll soon be available as Audio Units and VST), but in terms of performance, man...


    Admittedly, I'm not working w/ the most powerful machine, but, still... If I set the buffers under 64, even w/ a single track simply armed for recording and an amp sim (no matter which one), I get clicks and pops. And playback isn't even engaged!


    W/ the buffers at 64, I may be able to actually record 10 or 15 seconds before PT drops out. Virtual Instruments - practically the same thing. Knowing how sensitive PT is, I even tried to accommodate it by tweaking my machine as suggested - something I never needed to do w/ Logic or Studio One.


    By comparison, I very rarely need to set the buffers higher than 32 in Logic, and I often leave iTunes, Mail and Safari open in the background. 


    But I have zero problem running Superior Drummer + Kontakt for bass + EXS-24 (Logic's Sampler) + Amp sims + Impulse Loaders + compressions and EQs as I need them. In fact Logic never dropped out during a recording - not once. In Pro Tools, it is systematic.
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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/21 00:52:44 (permalink)
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    Mooch4056


    He's not arguing about the best DAW out there .... He's just showing how to use Any DAW as a front end to PT HD .... Ad that particular article isn't THAT old

    It's just a rid bit Bapu was throwing out there ... Sme info ... 911 .... Some juice ... Gossip , ... Here it is ... This is that .... 


    Some people didn't know 

    K? 


    Thanks
    That article is old - 2 years and a couple of versions of ProTools old. You can't really use any daw as a front end to PT since some version of PT8. The most you can do is to create your MIDI in another daw and import that into PT or maybe import your audio tracks into PT - of course the latter depends on having used bwf as your audio format. That really doesn't count on using any daw as a front end to PT. To me using something as a front end means dealing with that piece of software or hardware as your data entry point and not the end program (PT in this case).



    Then again here's one of the reasons I really don't come around here much any more - seeing certain posters as they're the be-all and end-all of anything.

    I am just saying ...the article says it can be used for any daw .....and if you read it ...you would see ...that's what it says ...


    Personally I will probably never purchase it .......and I am not the end all or beginning all of anything ... Just a dude who likes sonar ...so don't say that ...because I didn't say I was  




    But when I or anyone else puts something in front of you that says ...this product does something ....then how do you deny it?




    Does it do it well ....is it smooth sailing ?  I don't know ...never tried it ...and probably never will ...too much cash for me. 




    But it says it works with any daw and I have a friend who uses digital performer in front of pro tools hd .... So I was curious and been looking into it 


    I digress  back to the article 


    ....clearly the article states it works with any DAW....




    Sorry ...but it does .. It says that ...the article ....even if the article was 3000 billion years old....it says that 




    I am sorry that Bapu put a tid bit of info up here ...for you ...for us ....for all of man kind ...he put that article for all to see 




    I hope you accept my apology ..




    Sincerely,


    A guy who like sonar x2 




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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/21 02:22:00 (permalink)
    Boy did Mooch show those guys who can't enter a linefeed or what???!

     
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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/21 02:57:51 (permalink)
    Mooch


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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/21 04:50:53 (permalink)
    Ya.

     
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    Re:SONAR as a front end to Pro Tools? 2012/11/21 09:48:50 (permalink)
    Didn't the article say any daw or am I crazy .... The currently one 2012 ... It say it has to be Asio compatable 


    Ooooo


    Ya .. I am kind of a big deal ... It's true ... A least in mine and bapu's world

    Ummmm 

    I am beginning and ending this thread here ..... That's what I do 


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