SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch

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2015/11/05 11:12:00 (permalink)

SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch

Anyone who has been interested in this device, I just got a notice that the compact model is now "In stock" at Sweetwater and other gear e-tailers. I'm very interested to hear some reviews of it when the full-size model comes out. Looks like they're going to make it for X-mas. ;-)



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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/05 14:41:35 (permalink)
    Oh man. Been waiting aaaages for it. Gave up last year and got myself a VS700 
    If I hadn't been that lucky to find one, I would still be waiting for the Behringer.
    www.thomann.de here in Europe lists the full-size models as "in stock" right now ...

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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/05 14:52:43 (permalink)
    I gave up also and purchased a Mackie Pro Universal,
     
     
    the Behringer looked so good, but it is a Behringer...

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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/05 14:56:14 (permalink)
    Sweetwater says that the X touch full size is now in stock for $600.  Looks like a good control surface.  I will put it on my list for Santa.

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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/05 14:59:59 (permalink)
    I'm a skeptic... I'm still convinced this controller is a myth until somebody here can post a photo of it in their room ;)
    post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/11/05 15:11:19

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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/06 11:12:17 (permalink)
    I've order one yesterday, just got the tracking number so i'm waiting for it!
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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/06 12:57:56 (permalink)
    Hello from Germany,
     
    I have the X-Touch for a while now and the main functions work well, but something is a bit strange I don't know how the mapping is on the mackie control.
     
    Main function:
    Fader, Record, Mute, Solo, Pan, Zoom and Transport is fine.
     
    Strange:
    Click button activate cycle not the click
    Trim button = Track control
    Save button = Activate Bus control
    Undo button = Aux control
    Midi Track button adds a new Audio Track
    Inputs button adds a new Midi Track
    Marker button has no function with Shift and Marker button the Marker Dialog opened
    Automation buttons Read, Write, Touch does not work and the Latch button activates the offset modus.
    And it seems that some other buttons also have no function.
     
    I have the latest firmeware "" on the unit.
     
     
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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/06 13:46:13 (permalink)
    BlackWave
    Hello from Germany,
     
    I have the X-Touch for a while now and the main functions work well, but something is a bit strange I don't know how the mapping is on the mackie control.
     
    Main function:
    Fader, Record, Mute, Solo, Pan, Zoom and Transport is fine.
     
    Strange:
    Click button activate cycle not the click
    Trim button = Track control
    Save button = Activate Bus control
    Undo button = Aux control
    Midi Track button adds a new Audio Track
    Inputs button adds a new Midi Track
    Marker button has no function with Shift and Marker button the Marker Dialog opened
    Automation buttons Read, Write, Touch does not work and the Latch button activates the offset modus.
    And it seems that some other buttons also have no function.
     
    I have the latest firmeware "" on the unit.
     
     




    I've been waiting (like others) for this to come out. I almost pushed the "Buy" button, but decided to wait for the dust to settle before making the plunge.
     
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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/06 14:20:35 (permalink)
    It sounds like Behringer has not mapped the buttons usual way. 5 (!) possible roads to go:
    1. (best, when available) find if X-Touch has several mapping modes. And find the one which is close to MCU
    2. try to use moded plug-in from sdupayage: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3092979 it has "remapping" page
    3. participate in constructing X-Touch special mod for Mackie Control (as information provider and tester)
    4. try adopt my plug-in Mackie preset for X-Touch
    5. develop special X-Touch plug-in or preset in my plug-in from scratch (only if you have nothing to do next months )
     
    What original plug-in expects (in terms of MIDI notes for buttons) you can check there:
    * Right click on the image and open it separately to see the numbers
    post edited by azslow3 - 2015/11/06 14:31:58

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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/06 16:01:01 (permalink)
    Thanks azslow3
     
    Yes if I take your picture as template the knops are correct but the print on X-Touch is wrong. The plugin from sdupayage seems to work after a short test some of knops can be remappt but for exemple Read/Off still not work and Marker is 84 also on the picture but I have still to press Shift+Marker.
    The AZ Controller plugin I test a while ago and it seems this has the same mapping as the mackie control from cakewalk if I use the preset. The X-touch has MCU and HUI protocol switchable, I use MCU.
     
    Sorry my english is not so well.
     
    P.S. @ azslow3 btw I also have downloaded the x64 version from here: but this *dll don't do any work.
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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/06 18:56:43 (permalink)
    BlackWave
    Thanks azslow3
     
    Yes if I take your picture as template the knops are correct but the print on X-Touch is wrong. The plugin from sdupayage seems to work after a short test some of knops can be remappt but for exemple Read/Off still not work and Marker is 84 also on the picture but I have still to press Shift+Marker.
    The AZ Controller plugin I test a while ago and it seems this has the same mapping as the mackie control from cakewalk if I use the preset. The X-touch has MCU and HUI protocol switchable, I use MCU.

    I guess we should proceed with the option (3).
    Just write the mapping like <button name> to <note number> + short description what you expect.
     

    Sorry my english is not so well.
    P.S. @ azslow3 btw I also have downloaded the x64 version from here: but this *dll don't do any work.

    That is the only part I could not understand  which DLL you mean?
     
    And while this forum is in English, we can discuss the details on my forum (I mean in German).
     

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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/06 20:15:18 (permalink)
    Oh sorry the link is missing in my post to your other post "Mackie Control support improvements"
     
    I have send a PM to you.
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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/07 04:41:40 (permalink)
    BlackWave
    Oh sorry the link is missing in my post to your other post "Mackie Control support improvements"

    May be Microsoft Runtime 2015 is not installed: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145
     

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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/07 06:22:15 (permalink)
    So the unit is not "fully" Mackie compatible unless there are modifications. 
    I had considered replacing my BCF2000 but now holding off.
     
    Edited for typos.
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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/07 06:56:10 (permalink)
    Hm, not sure. If you take the picture from azslow3 as "overlay" it is exact the mapping from the MC. But on the X-Touch what is print on the unit itself you expect other parameters. Check a picture from the X-Touch and compare this with the picture from azslow3 post you see the difference. With the plugin from sdupayage you can assign the buttons to the "right" place on the X-Touch. This works fine but because I'm lazy I have done a "analog" way and just print me an overlay with right names for the buttons.
     
    On the X-Touch product page is a download link for the Firmware maybee sooner or later a right mapping is available then. And for the smaller one is a editor available.
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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/07 11:36:13 (permalink)
    Mackie Control (for which the plug-in was written originally), Sonar overlay for it (what you see on my picture) and Mackie Control Universal (Pro) all have a bit different layouts (I have pictures for all three, if someone want to compare).
     
    So, it is ok that X-Touch has it yet other way. That is why I still propose: I can make a variation of MackieControl.dll which will be X-Touch specific. For that particular layout. I do not have MCU nor X-Touch, so I need help with mapping to implement that.
     

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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2015/11/09 14:07:04 (permalink)
    Just receive it. I have to leave for the job. I will plug it tonight!
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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2016/11/26 09:34:52 (permalink)
    azslow3
    Mackie Control (for which the plug-in was written originally), Sonar overlay for it (what you see on my picture) and Mackie Control Universal (Pro) all have a bit different layouts (I have pictures for all three, if someone want to compare).
     
    So, it is ok that X-Touch has it yet other way. That is why I still propose: I can make a variation of MackieControl.dll which will be X-Touch specific. For that particular layout. I do not have MCU nor X-Touch, so I need help with mapping to implement that.
     




    Hello, I am very interested. What do you need exactly, I'll see if I can help.
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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2016/11/26 10:40:02 (permalink)
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    Mackie Control (for which the plug-in was written originally), Sonar overlay for it (what you see on my picture) and Mackie Control Universal (Pro) all have a bit different layouts (I have pictures for all three, if someone want to compare).
     
    So, it is ok that X-Touch has it yet other way. That is why I still propose: I can make a variation of MackieControl.dll which will be X-Touch specific. For that particular layout. I do not have MCU nor X-Touch, so I need help with mapping to implement that.

    Hello, I am very interested. What do you need exactly, I'll see if I can help.

    X-Touch is 1 to 1 copy of MCU, so if you just need corresponding (printable) layout, it is discussed on this forum, really originating from the Behringer forum (search for X-Touch Sonar there). In this forum you can also swarch for the thread with proposal to order Lexar overlays.
     
    About the second part. I do not really "need" anything, that is the biggest part of the problem.
    The proposal is in different direction: if you need something, I can find a solution (up to modifying the code, but limited by Sonar itself). So from your side two activities are required in this case:
    1) formulate what you need or want
    2) test the result

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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2017/09/30 12:20:51 (permalink)
    Hi
     
    Just got the Extender for X Touch and can't seem to get it working in Sonar Platinum. It recognizes it and shows up in the MIDI controller box. Set it up and the X touch works, but the xtender is dead. And by that I mean it doesn't light up or function like the Xtouch. Has anyone had any success in this yet?
     
    Thanks
     
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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2017/09/30 15:54:17 (permalink)
     
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    Hi
     
    .... but the xtender is dead. And by that I mean it doesn't light up or function like the Xtouch....

    I have the X-Touch, but not the extender. Don't understand why it doesn't light up. I would think that since it's AC powered, the lights should work even if it's not plugged into the computer via the USB. Bad unit?
     
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    Re: SONAR control surfaces: Behringer X-Touch 2017/09/30 17:06:56 (permalink)
    In case Sonar can see it as a MIDI device, you should set it up as "Mackie XT" (you use "Mackie" for the basis unit). Also do not forget to switch the unit itself into "Mackie" mode.

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