SONAR total roundtrip latency 18 ms

Hi all!
 
First post for me on the forum!
I´m using SONAR Platinum with a well spec´d PC (i7, 32 GB RAM) and a SONAR VS-100 soundcard.
I´ve set the ASIO buffer size to 128 samples (2,9 msec) and this gives me a TRL of 18 ms.
Seems very high to me! 
How high are your TRL? Same figures or lower?
Any idea why this could be so high?
(I must say that at the moment I´m working on a project with 15 tracks, 6 synths and a couple of FX and I don´t have any problems with latency, the synths playback just fine with no delay, it´s just the TRL figure that seems to be very high)
 
Also, when I add an instance of Izotope Ozone to one of my tracks, suddenly the latency is very much noticeable.
From that moment, there´s so much latency in the project that it becomes almost impossible to play a synth in real time.
Any idea why that could be?
 
Thanks for your help! 
 
Regards,
Gis
 

18ms with 128 samples buffer is usual RTL with low quality USB interfaces (it is 17ms with 133 samples buffer on my Focusrite Scarlett 8i6). As I know some Roland cards have some setting for it (double buffer, CPU performance, or something like that).
Good RME USB interfaces have 8-9ms as I know, and PCI/ PCI-E are the best.
I have some troubles with that, because I use hardware synths, and I'm gonna upgrade to RME in the future. If you only use VSTis, it is less important.

Yup... just as I suspected. My RTL is 22.1 and I was recording solos all morning.
 
I can get it down to 12ms RTL but why risk glitches?
 
Edit: and welcome to the forum... sorry I thought you were someone else for a second.
 
Cheers.

Thanx for the replies!!
I´ve taken away the FX and frozen the synths, but the RTL stays at 18 ms.
Anyways, I have no problems recording, I was just wondering if that was a normal number, which it seems to be according to some of you.
So, I´m happy with that.
 
I also got around the problem with Izotope Ozone which DOES add noticeable latency to the signal.
When I record, I just switch all FX off, record it and put all FX back on again.
 
Now, just a final question.
I´m using the VS-100 as my soundcard but I also have a Fractal AXE FX (guitar processor) hooked up to my PC via USB.
I have DESELECTED the corresponding in- and outputs of this AXE FX in the DEVICES tab, so only my SONAR VS-100 in- and outputs are selected, but when I go to the SYNC AND CACHING tab, the record latency adjustment device is selected to the AXE FX. I can choose the VS-100, but then as soon as I select APPLY, the device jumps back to the AXE FX.
This is weird (any maybe something to do with the RTL.....???)
 
Is this normal behaviour or should my VS-100 figure here as the record latency adjustment device?
 
Thanks ever so much!!!!
 
Gis

Tried that. Uninstalled the drivers. They didn´t show up in Sonar, only the VS-100, still the same RTL of 18,5 seconds.
Anyway, it´s ok for me. I can work with it, if the latency get´s too much, I just temporarily switch off all FX to record something and that´s it!
Thanks for all the replies
Very much appreciated!
Got me a better understanding of my system

I was forced into the Win10 thing which caused me endless problems with my Roland V-studio 20 (which I loved btw) to the point where I had to sell. I bought the Audient ID14 and upgraded to Sonar Platinum, but the reported ASIO latencies at all frequencies were initially so bad that a 29ms round trip was the best I could manage. I moved away from it all for fear of throwing something at the wall.
 
However, I recently played around with the settings again after they announced the driver update and the lowest round trip is now less than 7ms. Massive improvement. Trouble is, now I don't know whether that's due to the new driver or changes to SONAR (Ipswich).

yevster
Duplicate post. Erase me from existence!

You might want to do that but I will at least need ONE MILLION DOLLARS (or a camel).

RESQ
Tried that. Uninstalled the drivers. They didn´t show up in Sonar, only the VS-100, still the same RTL of 18,5 seconds.
Anyway, it´s ok for me. I can work with it, if the latency get´s too much, I just temporarily switch off all FX to record something and that´s it!
Thanks for all the replies
Very much appreciated!
Got me a better understanding of my system

Standard Operating Practice.
 
Temporarily bypassing all your Fx (just hit 'e') reduces your latency to a minimum.
 
Unless I'm recording someone who needs Fx whilst tracking, I do this all the time.
 
If say, they really want reverb in their phones and you don't have access to an external solution, just uncheck "Bypass FX Rack" on your reverb bus (as an example)