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2014/06/30 22:15:23 (permalink)

ST3

I know all you GAS-A-HOLICS can't wait...so here ya go...

http://www.kvraudio.com/n...-july-2014-26323/0/497


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    Glyn Barnes
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    Re: ST3 2014/07/01 00:24:42 (permalink)
    The most detail is here http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/sampletank3/index.php?pp=sampletank-3-info
     
    I would like the improved Miroslav and a better, 64 bit engine to use some of my existing content, but at the upgrade price of $99 the jury is still out. It looks like a good application for the first time user, but I am not sure its aimed at me.
     
    If I was using ST3 I would probably bypass the inbuilt T-Racks / Amplitube based effects and use effects in Sonar's FX bin or FX chains, which may or may not include T-Racks and Amplitube, so that part of the package does not sell it to me. Like instruments that use built in effects in Kontakt inbuilt effects can actually slow down the work flow when you have to go in an bypass them.
     
    I am not sure about the MIDI engine or indeed the concept of running MIDI patterns within ST3. In my drum samplers I only use the built in MIDI player for auditioning even when there is a facility to chain patterns into songs or song sections. It does not seem like a convienent workflow from my perspective when the DAWs track view and MIDI editing is so powerful.
     
    I am not in the market for new "bread and butter" content but I don't think the question was ever answered about how much of the 33GB is actually new, if you read carefully  IK do not imply that it is 33GB of new content, but some people have read it that way. We know that a lot of the orchestral instruments are re-packaged and re-scripted Miroslav samples. I wonder how much ST2.5 stuff is also repackage.

    For your convenience — and to avoid the hassle of converting your previous SampleTank 2 XL sounds — all of those prior sound libraries are included in SampleTank 3. Already imported, properly categorized and easy to access, previous users will immediately find sounds they are familiar with. And new users will have an additional arsenal of bread-and-butter sounds that have made history.

     
    Then there are a lot of loops, that must take up quite a few GB. I would not use them, will the installing them be optional.
     
    To me it seems closer to Dimension Pro than Kontakt.
     
     
     
     
    post edited by Glyn Barnes - 2014/07/01 00:40:56

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    Glyn Barnes
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    Re: ST3 2014/07/01 00:37:31 (permalink)

     and even more exotic electric pianos like the RMI, Cembalet and Pianet. All these instruments are sampled with multiple velocities

     
    An RMI piano sampled at multiple velocities? now that is interesting.
     
     

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    Re: ST3 2014/07/01 03:22:18 (permalink)
    I must admit that I'm kind of surprised that you'd be on top of this Larry.
     
    I would have though the exact opposite.
     
    I'm having a hard time seeing you as an 'IK Media promoter or sales advocate'.
     
    Meanwhile, I've still been holding my breath on this all this time - if you recall from about 5-6 weeks ago.
     
    So can I finally let it out now and take in a new refreshing one? [Especially since I too will be passing on this?]
     
    After all, if it's not  good enough for the Baps, then it's not  good enough for me!   
    post edited by jimusic - 2014/07/04 02:49:30



     
     
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    Re: ST3 2014/07/01 03:52:42 (permalink)
    I don't think it's making any attempt to compete or be compared to Kontakt. It's simply not a sampler.  In fact, what it looks like they attempted to do was create a better multimbral workstation synth more along the lines of All-in-one workstations like the Yamaha Motiff or Roland Fantom.  There are not many options for such things using one synth.  I know I'm still wondering how much of the new content is actually new.  I think for the person who likes to crank out songs using one main plugin it's a decent option.  Also not bad fort arrangers who want a beefier option than gm plugins.
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    Re: ST3 2014/07/01 05:53:50 (permalink)
    Will it work on my Android?


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    Re: ST3 2014/07/01 07:17:47 (permalink)
    dubdisciple
    I don't think it's making any attempt to compete or be compared to Kontakt. It's simply not a sampler.  In fact, what it looks like they attempted to do was create a better multimbral workstation synth more along the lines of All-in-one workstations like the Yamaha Motiff or Roland Fantom.  There are not many options for such things using one synth.  I know I'm still wondering how much of the new content is actually new.  I think for the person who likes to crank out songs using one main plugin it's a decent option.  Also not bad fort arrangers who want a beefier option than gm plugins.


    I think that is a fair assesment and I think Peter from IK has said as much.
     
    I know a lot of people were hoping for some serious competition for Kontakt but they have gone in a different direction, one that is not pulling too hard on my purse strings at the moment.
     
    But I am sure there is a market for it.

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    Re: ST3 2014/07/01 07:54:17 (permalink)
    I'll buy when it's $29....no more...

    They should have GIVEN us the 64 bit ST 3 FREE....but opted to be GREEDY,
    eliminate the FREE version, and opted to "BILK" the GAS customers for every
    penny they can get.  THAT, to ME, says a LOT about the company.

    I will say no more...case closed.


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    Re: ST3 2014/07/01 10:40:45 (permalink)
    So where is it? It is July.

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    Re: ST3 2014/07/01 10:46:53 (permalink)
    MGC59
    So where is it? It is July.



    They didn't specify "WHEN" in July...they still have 29 days! 


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    Re: ST3 2014/07/01 19:36:41 (permalink)
    Do you know about disk streaming in Sampletank 3?
    Can it stream samples from disk or is it only RAM ??
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    Re: ST3 2014/07/01 20:56:42 (permalink)
    gigasonar
    Do you know about disk streaming in Sampletank 3?
    Can it stream samples from disk or is it only RAM ??


    Just read on KVR that it streams the same as ST2.5


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    Re: ST3 2014/07/01 23:52:32 (permalink)
    My Sweetwater invoice states release is set for 7-15.
    We could start a pool.
    Just sayin'....
     
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    Re: ST3 2014/07/02 11:39:06 (permalink)
    SampleTank 3 shipping July 24th -  http://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/?item_id=4328
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    Re: ST3 2014/07/02 11:50:34 (permalink)
    Oooooooooooooooo....

    I LOVE THIS PART...

    Over 10 years in the making, SampleTank 3 sets a new standard for software sound workstations. It builds upon the popularity and legacy of the SampleTank line, with over 33 GB of sounds, over 4,000 instruments, over 2,000 MIDI files and 2,500 loops — all of which sound great and are easy to manipulate right out of the box.


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    Re: ST3 2014/07/02 12:01:46 (permalink)
    IK_Multimedia
    SampleTank 3 shipping July 24th -  http://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/?item_id=4328




    Good news, thanks!

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    Re: ST3 2014/07/02 14:27:33 (permalink)
    You're welcome.  Glad to have a specific date to share now.
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    Re: ST3 2014/07/02 14:50:42 (permalink)
    Glyn Barnes
    I am not in the market for new "bread and butter" content but I don't think the question was ever answered about how much of the 33GB is actually new, if you read carefully  IK do not imply that it is 33GB of new content, but some people have read it that way. We know that a lot of the orchestral instruments are re-packaged and re-scripted Miroslav samples. I wonder how much ST2.5 stuff is also repackage.

     
    From Peter in the "official" IK info thread:
     
    http://www.ikmultimedia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7598&start=870#p44118
     

    The SampleTank 3 library includes the SampleTank 2.5 XL library and some of the Miroslav Philharmonik library (reprogrammed to take advantage of the ST3 features, keyswitching, etc). So around 25GB of new sounds. You will need to import any other previous Powered By SampleTank libraries into SampleTank 3 in order to use them in it.


     In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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    Re: ST3 2014/07/02 14:58:06 (permalink)
    Damn,
    I was goin' with the 15th, figured that Sweet had the "weight" to know!
    Guess the pool's off then, huh?

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    Re: ST3 2014/07/02 15:08:53 (permalink)
    They probably should have stuck to the "in July" timeframe until they had the updated hard date.  They've been informed and I'm sure the pages will get corrected soon.
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    Re: ST3 2014/07/02 16:09:28 (permalink)
    Don't get me wrong, I'm NOT unhappy.
    All the "synths" quit working when I installed X2, ampegSVX too.
    Anything that had NOT been ported to 64 bit (this was on my 32bit machine and X2 32 and 64 on the 64 biter).
    It'll be nice to have access once again, I marked the $99 upgrade "cheap"!
    As far as the "pool" goes; well, we are "downstairs", right?
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    Re: ST3 2014/07/02 16:13:53 (permalink)
    Oh I didn't think you were griping about anything :)  Meet you downstairs in the pool *cannonball*
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    Re: ST3 2014/07/03 19:19:28 (permalink)
    I think I will wait as well.


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    Re: ST3 2014/07/03 22:02:34 (permalink)
    I'm with Matt ... $29....that's all I'm sayin....10 years of waiting...$29....


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    Re: ST3 2014/07/03 22:41:37 (permalink)
    Think I might give it a crack. I got the first one early too.
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