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Re: Sad but true.
2015/12/19 18:53:58
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That's why giving your bass some kind of Maxxbass style treatment is so important these days.
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Re: Sad but true.
2015/12/19 19:08:51
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☄ Helpfulby Rimshot 2015/12/19 19:26:30
sharke
That's why giving your bass some kind of Maxxbass style treatment is so important these days.
I'm still hoping that at some point, we will stop ruining art in an attempt to accommodate the lowest common denominator. I wonder how those classic rock albums of the 70's would have sounded if they'd been mixed to accommodate the people who made mix tapes on crappy systems at home...
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Re: Sad but true.
2015/12/19 19:09:18
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I play my music on my computer speakers . . . It sounds really good, apart from my DAW PC's which have Studio monitors, my laptop for the net, and one of my other Desktop's which also does the net has these computer speakers 
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Re: Sad but true.
2015/12/19 19:18:20
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I seem to make a lot of comments about low end when I listen to song forums.
I usually listen on my system and headphones before I comment or if a work using PC speakers, I will let the writer know that. Sometimes I just comment on the song.
It does feel like there are many listeners that really can't comment on frequency because of how they listen before they comment.
Not a bad thing but I am with Rain about trying to accomodate the lowest common denoninator. It is pretty low!
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Rain
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Re: Sad but true.
2015/12/19 19:20:31
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This is the only place I listen to music.  Now, playing back music for casual purpose is a different thing. Downstairs, I use a pair of these to play music when we have people over...  And we have one of these in the gym. My lovely lady loves the fact that it's Blue Tooth and she can stream music from her phone. Me I still prefer to use a cable, as there is an audible difference, even when using something as lofi as this. 
post edited by Rain - 2015/12/19 19:33:40
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Richard Cranium
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Re: Sad but true.
2015/12/19 19:26:50
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I still use a proper stereo system for actually listening to music, but the Computers I use on the net also do a little gaming, thus I like to have a largish sound all around me, also a benefit for listening to music etc on the net. But I still prefer a decent stereo in front of a comfy couch, doors and windows shut, aircon on and volume up.
I think back in the old days there wasn't that option of mp3 players and all the whizzbangery of today, it was either Records, Taps, CD's and basically requiring a stereo system of some sort. You still had no control over the quality of the listeners stereo system. But today, it's a different story, and everything must move along with the trends whether it's good or bad.
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Re: Sad but true.
2015/12/19 19:38:39
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I've been using my Alesis M1 Actives AS my computer speakers for about three months now and they sound great.
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Re: Sad but true.
2015/12/20 10:52:13
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For the songs forum I (99% of the time) listen on my Sennheiser HD-600s.
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Re: Sad but true.
2015/12/20 11:20:09
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Years ago I used to have a pretty good hifi system - all vintage (70's) stuff apart from the CD player. Had some old Sharp speakers from the early 70's which sounded absolutely incredible. Great big whacking sand-weighted speaker stands positioned away from the wall. I've had friends with expensive audiophile systems so I'm familiar with the audiophile sound.
However none of them sounded as good as the setup I have now - streaming from Spotify through ARC2, out of my Equator Audio D5's. Even though one of them is faulty, has a hissing sound and is a little quieter than the other one to the point where I have to adjust the balance. Even though they're on a shelf, next to a wall, in a room which is completely untreated and has a couple of crazy low end resonances.
ARC2 is what does it. Even in the face of all of these less than ideal factors, the music I listen to sounds more balanced, more detailed, more focused and more three dimensional than anything I've heard in the past. It makes me wonder just how amazing my old hi-fi could have sounded if I'd have been able to route the sound through ARC.
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Re: Sad but true.
2015/12/20 11:45:07
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I think some of the phenomenon is due to movie theaters - fewer people attending and lower standards for exhibition.
Back before most people had nice hi-fi gear at home, the only place to hear high-quality audio was at the movie theater. That gave listeners a standard to compare with. Nowadays, young people are far more likely to experience a movie on their iPad. The new Star Wars will be bootlegged within a week, and millions of teens around the world will see it as a grainy, crappy-sounding mp4 on an 8" screen while pretending to do homework.
Thankfully, the people who make the movies still mix and master as though we'll all hear it as intended. That's the way it should be, IMO. Don't lower your standards. Even if just one person hears it properly, that can be the one person you mixed it for.
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