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2017/02/10 13:25:16 (permalink)

Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW?

I'd like to access Spotify on my DAW. Spotify says it needs Flash to work.
Am I looking for problems installing Flash on DAW?
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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/10 14:36:35 (permalink)
There should be none, but you will want to change its auto update to "notify me and let me choose." Even then Adobe may adjust it on you, so you may ultimately need to go into "Services" and set that updater service to "Manual" which means it will never start unless you initiate it.

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/10 15:31:24 (permalink)
Flash has never caused me any problems with Sonar. 

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/10 16:30:37 (permalink)
No issues with Adobe Flash... 
 
Adobe is pretty bad about letting their services continuously run in the background.
I go in and set those to "manual" as well...

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/10 17:37:19 (permalink)
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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/11 09:41:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/02/11 10:46:50
I always skip Adobe Flash installation, and Reader, because I use Chrome for most browsing, and it has Adobe Flash built-in, as well as the ability to display PDF docs too.
 
I do not care for Adobe's stuff wanting to run all the time, and I periodically see their stuff getting used as an entry point for malicious code once in a while.
 
So - I normally go into settings and set the default app for opening PDF files to be Google Chrome, and also never have issues with Flash media playing in Chrome without my having to deal with separate installation and maintenance of Flash.
 
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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/11 10:50:29 (permalink)
+1 to what Bob said!
 
The best way to avoid dealing with Adobe and having to manage and update a separate installed product, is to just use Google Chrome.  The built-in Flash plug updates with Chrome.
 
I have banished Flash from my PC, except for Chrome
 
So does Spotify run in a browser, or is it a standalone app?

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/11 15:35:59 (permalink)
I believe Spotify runs in a browser window - don't know if a separate app available for it or not.
 
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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/11 16:13:34 (permalink)
I installed Chrome one time.  Right after that I started getting audio dropouts in Sonar.  I uninstalled Chrome but I still had the dropouts.  Turned out Chrome also installed an updater program and even though I uninstalled Chrome the updater was still there.  It took manually removing it, including editing the registry to get rid of it.  Once I did, the dropouts went away.

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/11 16:15:51 (permalink)
No problems with Chrome here.  I have noticed occasional dropouts with my wifi-adapter active, but disabling that stops that issue.

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/11 16:29:57 (permalink)
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I believe Spotify runs in a browser window - don't know if a separate app available for it or not.
 
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You are right!  I had downloaded the Windows app last year, but yanked it because it always ran in the background.  Just tried the web player in Chrome, and it works!

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/12 21:41:00 (permalink)
Flash is definitely risky compared to chrome which is pretty bulletproof.  I always follow Security Now and would NOT use flash on my DAW rigs.  Have enough problems already!

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/12 22:23:42 (permalink)
Flash is updated very frequently because security holes keep being found in it. Steve Jobs suggested years ago it should be abandoned and media capable alternatives such as HTML5 used instead.

Chrome on the other hand is fine if you don't mind Google knowing everything you do and using the data however they like and selling the data on to whoever they like.

Flash doesn't exist for any iOS browser, and its absence is anything but a show-stopper. Instead it reveals how little on the web uses Flash nowadays compared to when any website wanting to be trendy was loaded to the gills with it.

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/13 11:16:12 (permalink)
Although I use Chrome, I wasn't able to listen to Soundcloud and Youtube until I installed Adobe Flash......so, I'm not sure what's the deal with that.
 
On a different note (or possibly related)....I've been having sporadic dropouts in Sonar thinking it's Win10 not working well with my Focusrite 2i4 (generation 1). After reading Fireberd's post, I'm wondering if it's something to do with Chrome or Adobe??

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/13 14:03:33 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2017/02/13 14:16:45
Mesh, download and run the free Resplendence Latency Mon program.  May point you to what the problem is.
I just helped a user on a computer forum that was having dropouts with a different DAW and an MAudio interface unit.  The Latency Mon program pinpointed his problem.
 
http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon
 
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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/13 14:18:35 (permalink)
Thanks Jack!!
Will definitely run it.

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/15 08:17:27 (permalink)
I ran resplendence and it said my machine was suitable for real time audio without dropouts (to that effect). I also noticed at the very bottom graphic meter (highest reported hard pagefault resolution) was in the red.
 
Not quite sure what that means??

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/15 11:30:27 (permalink)
I get that too.  But looking into the stats shows it was actually the Latencymon program that caused the page faults. 
 

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/15 11:51:51 (permalink)
Ahh, that's good to know. I guess it's back to the Focusrite/Win10 driver issue (although I'm trying out a Beta version that was just released). Hopefully, it'll work out.
 
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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/19 17:57:11 (permalink)
So, I installed Chrome. Then, a bunch of hassles getting Spotify to work (the free version). 
Wow, I was suprised at how terrible the sound is.
Usually I just listen casually on my laptop and can't really hear good or bad.
 
320mp3 usually sounds pretty good to me but not this spotify stream.
What's up with that? 
 

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/21 11:00:59 (permalink)
Hi Tim - on any laptop or PC with WiFi - I always turn off or disable the WiFi prior to launching Sonar, because for some reason many WiFi devices cause REALLY bad DPC Latency Spikes, which can really interfere with audio playback - those issues vanish once the WiFi is disabled - on MY computers.
 
So - give that a shot - most times a laptop will have either a function key to turn off/on the WiFi transceiver, or there may be a physical switch - and if not, you could go into Windows Device Manager and just right-click on the WiFi driver and click on Disable, then launch Sonar.  When done with the Sonar session, turn WiFi back on, or enable the device, if needed - reversing whichever method you used to get WiFi shut off.
 
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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/22 08:35:08 (permalink)
Thanks Bob. Yea, I usually pull out my USB internet dongle thingy when I get serious.
Pretty sure listening to Spotify without internet would not work so well:)
 
 

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/22 10:56:46 (permalink)

just a sec

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/22 14:05:39 (permalink)
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So, I installed Chrome. Then, a bunch of hassles getting Spotify to work (the free version). 
Wow, I was suprised at how terrible the sound is.
Usually I just listen casually on my laptop and can't really hear good or bad.
 
320mp3 usually sounds pretty good to me but not this spotify stream.
What's up with that? 
 




Just use the Spotify web player in Chrome.   (Edit: I just tried in Firefox without Flash, and it worked.  They must have updated to HTML5)
 
https://play.spotify.com/

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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/23 06:50:03 (permalink)
If you care one single bit about security you should avoid Flash at all costs. 
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Re: Safe to install adobe flash on Sonar DAW? 2017/02/23 09:36:29 (permalink)
... or any Microsoft browsers ... don't understand why they are bundling Flash with them lately ...

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