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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/14 15:38:01 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby thepianist65 2018/12/15 16:04:09
Looks great! But I won't update anytime soon. The reasons are:
ST4 won't surpass in sound quality
  • TT SD3 for drums
  • NI, Ample Sound and Impact Soundworks for bass and guitars
  • XLN AK2 for grand piano
  • Waves keys for EPs
  • NI Session Horns and Magix Independence for pop brass and horns
  • KH Orchestra, NI VSL and SoniVox for orchestral instuments
  • AiR for synths
  • IK ST3 for compact all-in-one rompler
Besides sound quality not being on par with the best instruments on the market, it will take 500GB of disk space (250GB for the sounds, and ~250GB to keep archive available off-line in case you need to re-install it but your download has expired and you need to pay more to download your sounds again).
But it looks like a great investment for those who are new to collecting software instruments. In other words, if I didn't have all other libraries and instruments, I'd bite on the new ST4.  But I do, so I won't.
 

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/14 16:52:31 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2018/12/14 17:00:37
Ditto ^^^^^^
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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/14 19:03:15 (permalink)
Ditto two here
 

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/14 20:52:52 (permalink)
I’ll bite if the upgrade from (full) ST3 to (full) ST4 is under 50 gear credits.
That new piano might just be worth it.

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/14 21:04:52 (permalink)
Once you try it, I'll bet a lot of those "won't" entries will turn into "does"... The quality of these sounds is a HUGE leap and is going to be a surprise to many based on the assumptions I'm seeing floating around a couple of forums.
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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/14 21:14:01 (permalink)
You've convinced me already! What are the timescales for the release by the way? I keep checking my account :)

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/14 21:18:46 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby kitekrazy1 2018/12/14 22:59:53
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Once you try it, I'll bet a lot of those "won't" entries will turn into "does"... The quality of these sounds is a HUGE leap and is going to be a surprise to many based on the assumptions I'm seeing floating around a couple of forums.


It's a bit tricky to try a 250GB library for an ordinary user, don't you think? What will the demo contain? How many full instruments, that is, with all samples and articulations, will be in the SE version?

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/15 00:08:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BobF 2018/12/15 11:50:11
I will most likely get this. I might go for the Max bundle. I have been using ST3 a lot more lately. And as this is really the only "New" sampler that I have (don't have any Kontakt stuff), I have been very satisfied with the sounds for what I do.

But son of a gun, I got a 250gb SSD back a few years ago and never thought I would use it all up, much less need more room, but here I am juggling samples around just to have room!!

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/15 01:05:48 (permalink)
Well I made the plunge. Now I gotta install that 1TB SSD I got sitting on the desk.

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/15 15:55:14 (permalink)
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Once you try it, I'll bet a lot of those "won't" entries will turn into "does"... The quality of these sounds is a HUGE leap and is going to be a surprise to many based on the assumptions I'm seeing floating around a couple of forums.


It's a bit tricky to try a 250GB library for an ordinary user, don't you think? What will the demo contain? How many full instruments, that is, with all samples and articulations, will be in the SE version?


In the cases where users don't have the MAX library when available, and for those that want more information and examples during the pre-order period there will definitely be more videos and audio demos coming.
 
There are over 30 GB of samples and 2,000 sounds in SampleTank 4 SE https://www.ikmultimedia....4/index.php?p=versions
 
The request for more precise lists of sounds (more than the categories and descriptions you can see on the "Sounds" subpage) has definitely been made.  I'll let folks know about that as I have any news.  Thanks!
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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/15 15:59:22 (permalink)
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You've convinced me already! What are the timescales for the release by the way? I keep checking my account :)

Right now we have early 2019 set for the release time but I'll share any more specific information about the release as I have it.  Thanks for pre-ordering and checking your account, I'll have to convince someone to drop something old or odd in there to see if you notice from checking that frequently j/k ;)
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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/15 18:27:45 (permalink)
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Once you try it, I'll bet a lot of those "won't" entries will turn into "does"... The quality of these sounds is a HUGE leap and is going to be a surprise to many based on the assumptions I'm seeing floating around a couple of forums.


It's a bit tricky to try a 250GB library for an ordinary user, don't you think? What will the demo contain? How many full instruments, that is, with all samples and articulations, will be in the SE version?


In the cases where users don't have the MAX library when available, and for those that want more information and examples during the pre-order period there will definitely be more videos and audio demos coming.
 
There are over 30 GB of samples and 2,000 sounds in SampleTank 4 SE https://www.ikmultimedia....4/index.php?p=versions
 
The request for more precise lists of sounds (more than the categories and descriptions you can see on the "Sounds" subpage) has definitely been made.  I'll let folks know about that as I have any news.  Thanks!


Thanks for the info, Peter!
I think, if IK plans to release a demo for ST4, it's best to include 2 or 3 instruments from different versions: a legacy, a light version with a reduced set of samples/articulation and a full version. For example, a bass from ST3, ST4 SE and ST4 Max, and a few more instruments, like flute or a drumset.
This way any user will be able to decide which version is right for him/her.

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/15 18:32:19 (permalink)
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You've convinced me already! What are the timescales for the release by the way? I keep checking my account :)

Right now we have early 2019 set for the release time but I'll share any more specific information about the release as I have it.  Thanks for pre-ordering and checking your account, I'll have to convince someone to drop something old or odd in there to see if you notice from checking that frequently j/k ;)




Lol, thanks Peter (anyway I already have plenty of old or odd stuff ;)

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/15 21:24:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ZincTrumpet 2018/12/16 11:23:05
Thanks for following up, Peter, you make ‘em proud!

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/16 17:08:19 (permalink)
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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/16 18:54:45 (permalink)
Evah!

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/16 23:55:00 (permalink)
The Max upgrade is $140.99 w/max Jam Pts.
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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/17 10:47:09 (permalink)
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The upgrade is $140.99 w/max Jam Pts.


I didn't have enough JP to get it that low. I was able to get it for $152. Which I thought was a good deal considering it was the MAX deal.

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/17 17:31:12 (permalink)
Will ST4 have the ability to convert and use ST2 files, the way ST3 does?
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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/17 20:02:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2018/12/19 10:26:36
Come to think of it, still have to test drive my Sonik Synth.

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/18 01:32:03 (permalink)
So I'm looking at ST4 SE for $72, ST4 for $122, and ST4 Max for $172.  Decisions, decisions...

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/18 12:15:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby galeom 2018/12/18 12:24:52
I found an IKM Forum post relating to ST4 which may be of interest:
 
https://cgi.ikmultimedia.com/ikforum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=20046 
 
 

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/19 00:17:29 (permalink)
Thanks ZT.

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/19 10:27:47 (permalink)
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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/19 15:38:53 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BobF 2018/12/19 16:02:49
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Well I made the plunge. Now I gotta install that 1TB SSD I got sitting on the desk.


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I was thinking to myself "a 1TB SSD just sitting there?" then realized I had recently unwrapped something I could not identify and found the new processor I should have installed MONTHS ago so I cannot throw stones!
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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/19 15:40:09 (permalink)
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Will ST4 have the ability to convert and use ST2 files, the way ST3 does?

You would need to import the legacy libraries into SampleTank 3 and you can point SampleTank 4 to your ST3 library location.  Note that you will also be able to (finally - oops sorry for the editorial, hopefully nobody here @ IK is reading) specify multiple library locations.
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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/19 16:03:17 (permalink)
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Will ST4 have the ability to convert and use ST2 files, the way ST3 does?

You would need to import the legacy libraries into SampleTank 3 and you can point SampleTank 4 to your ST3 library location.  Note that you will also be able to (finally - oops sorry for the editorial, hopefully nobody here @ IK is reading) specify multiple library locations.




Multiple locations is a helpful addition.
 
 

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/19 16:34:40 (permalink)
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Will ST4 have the ability to convert and use ST2 files, the way ST3 does?

You would need to import the legacy libraries into SampleTank 3 and you can point SampleTank 4 to your ST3 library location.  Note that you will also be able to (finally - oops sorry for the editorial, hopefully nobody here @ IK is reading) specify multiple library locations.

Multiple locations is a helpful addition.

That's a nicer way of stating my "FINALLY" sentiment :)  I know it probably came off like this, but wasn't really this strongly felt:

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/19 18:08:22 (permalink)
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I was thinking to myself "a 1TB SSD just sitting there?"




Peter, I have my Music PC sitting inside of a box-like place under a section of my desk. To get to it is not an easy task. Putting it back in is even harder!! But I did this to help with keeping the noise down when I record vocals. As it stands now, I have never noticed my computer noise on a recording. But I have problems with the TV being picked up downstairs, lawnmowers next door! Everything I can't control!!
 
And when I got the SSD it was on sale, I was gonna use it as a system drive because I was having trouble getting what I wanted on the 250gb drive without running out of space. But now with recent purchases, (BiaB Ultra, TS MAX!) I will probably need it as a sample drive!!
 
Which still leaves me with my system drive not being up to what I need. So all this to explain I still really need to get a 500gb SSD for the system drive. And I don't want to pull the PC out until I get everything I need because of the hassle to do it.
 
But everyone keeps having great sales and I keep putting off getting that new system drive.  Do you see my delima?!!!
 
BTW, in case you ain't figured it out yet, that SSD is still sitting there!!
 
But a processor!! You forgot ABOUT??!!! Come on man, what's wrong with you!! LOL : )

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Re: SampleTank 4!!!!! 2018/12/19 21:27:59 (permalink)
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I was thinking to myself "a 1TB SSD just sitting there?"




Peter, I have my Music PC sitting inside of a box-like place under a section of my desk. To get to it is not an easy task. Putting it back in is even harder!! But I did this to help with keeping the noise down when I record vocals. As it stands now, I have never noticed my computer noise on a recording. But I have problems with the TV being picked up downstairs, lawnmowers next door! Everything I can't control!!
 
And when I got the SSD it was on sale, I was gonna use it as a system drive because I was having trouble getting what I wanted on the 250gb drive without running out of space. But now with recent purchases, (BiaB Ultra, TS MAX!) I will probably need it as a sample drive!!
 
Which still leaves me with my system drive not being up to what I need. So all this to explain I still really need to get a 500gb SSD for the system drive. And I don't want to pull the PC out until I get everything I need because of the hassle to do it.
 
But everyone keeps having great sales and I keep putting off getting that new system drive.  Do you see my delima?!!!
 
BTW, in case you ain't figured it out yet, that SSD is still sitting there!!
 
But a processor!! You forgot ABOUT??!!! Come on man, what's wrong with you!! LOL : )


Hey, c'mon I was admitting I was wrong in thinking that for even a second!!! :)   But yeah.  Forgetting a processor is shameful, I don't know how you all get me to open up about my own stupidity sometimes.
 
Seriously, though, I totally understand your line of thinking / chain of events.  So hauntingly familiar to me and probably most of the folks here.  It gets crazy and I also should note that no stones can be thrown over this topic during this time of the year because it is just bonkers.
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