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2008/10/21 18:06:24 (permalink)

Scanning Problem

Does anyone know how to stop MC4 scanning itself to death before it opens???

Often enough I get a windows error report that comes along just before it eventually opens.

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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/21 18:12:11 (permalink)
    The message states its the VST scanner..Is there anyway of disabling this?
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/21 18:17:53 (permalink)
    Yes. Open the Plug-in manager.
    You will see a checkbox where you can select not to run the Scan at start-up.
    The nect time you open the program, it will skip the scan.

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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/21 19:24:04 (permalink)
    Just my thoughts.... my platform does this also, it doesn't take up to much time...I thought that was necessary to have MC see and locate all it's misc VST's and such....

    It might be nice to run cake w/o the scan every time as long as it remembers it's VST's.


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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/21 19:33:25 (permalink)
    no it's not necessary to run every time you start. but if you add a new plugin you'll have to run it manually if you turn it off for startup.

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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/21 20:57:25 (permalink)
    Copy that. Once the software knows where to find the plug-ins, you don't need to scan any more.
    Alan, I don't believe you have a lot of VST's at the moment, and the long scan, combined with the error message, indicates the program is having a problem with at least one VST.
    My little voice is thinking Proteus may be the culprit, but have you downloaded any other VST's?
    Something is causing it to cough up a furrball.

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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 03:43:11 (permalink)
    The problem persists with an average scan time of about 2 minutes, even after switching the scanner off. (Using button on bottom left of scanner screen)
    New message reads uninstal reinstallation windows service pack 32dll as it cannot find a crucial DLL component,

    Update: reinstalled programme without success (still scanning) ...
    Maybe the message means reinstall windows instead of MC. I'm going to have to do this as the programme has decided not to open at all now
    Oh the joys....

    I've 32 VST's Bob, Don't know if thats consedered a lot or not. Woulddn't have thought so.

    The prob started imediately after the download and installation of Jamstix (Will contact Ralph ant JS and see if he has come across this before.)
    Another alternative is I've had a visit from a rather nasty bug through the internet system.

    Either way its maybe time for me to put it to bed for a while at least until I upgrade to HS7XL after Christmas.
    Thanks for all your help boys been really appreciated.
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 03:45:31 (permalink)
    Just a thought...Hope this won't infect GT3 which is sitting beside MC4.
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 04:10:11 (permalink)
    WHAT A NUMPTY, I AM,...WAS IN THE WRONG PLACE...HAVE FOUND AND DISABLED SCAN...
    MC4 Comes in fine now...although there is still something in there rumbling about that shouldn't be.

    I can finish my project and the look at full re-installation of the hard drive a little later on....
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 05:27:59 (permalink)
    Update..The plot thickens...Have reinstalled MC4. None of the plug ins have any effect....Midi or audio. After placing them in the FX bin there is no sound difference whatsoever. This is both on MC4 and my GT3 also...

    Any ideas anyone please
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 09:07:08 (permalink)
    i've never heard of a problem like that before. which OS? and which version of MC do you have again? which FX are you trying to use?

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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 10:05:44 (permalink)
    Hi Beagle,
    Using MC4...Tried most of the MC FX's but none do anything at all...absolutely no change in sound.

    The more I think about it the more I believe that my hard drive has been infected with some sort of virus. I've tried reinstalling MC twice with no joy.

    Going to reformat the hard drive this evening and hopefully that should sort things...
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 10:08:20 (permalink)
    Windows XP with a super duperAMD processor, 120 gig hard drive, 3.4 gig memory. More than enough really...
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 10:08:26 (permalink)
    ouch!

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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 10:43:29 (permalink)
    ooooh, reformat.....
    Sounds so serious and terminal and stuff
    I'll bring a six pack and watch over your shoulder, this could be fun
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 11:29:54 (permalink)
    Not the first choice Albert...The only choice I fear...Bring a 12 pack and something for yourself...
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 13:00:04 (permalink)
    So I see we will need one of them Bush thirty packs...no problem
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 13:09:29 (permalink)
    I'm past the age where I leave them bushy things alone.....
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 13:10:44 (permalink)
    ugh. remember the "bitter beer" commercials? Busch beer is what I think of when I saw those commercials!

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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 14:45:36 (permalink)
    BTW: on my scan...JS does take some time...


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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 16:09:13 (permalink)
    Am pulling the plug on Cakewalk tonight and will start a fresh tomorrow with a reformatted hard drive....Its since I installed JS that the problem started Herb...I ain't qualified enough to say it was JS it just happened right after I installed it.
    What a bummer.
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 16:27:30 (permalink)
    Before you reformat...have you spent the time to ask Ralph for help...? over at the Jamstix support forum? He is very knowledgable and helpful.... It would e a real shame if you reformatted and then found out is was a fixable issue with the JS install.

    I had issues with my install when I did not remove the demo before installing the real thing. (crashes and stuff)

    I'm also thinking that maybe..... not for sure... you might have turned something on or off that is affecting the plugins.... let Ralph help you for a few days before "pulling the plug".

    If you have a virus scanner on the computer and keep it current, and don't open weird emails from Zambia, and don't cruise sites and download & open unknown files, you should not have a virus.

    edit: tell Ralph the problem started AFTER installing JS.... he'll be able to help, and solve the problem or he will confirm that a reinstall is in order. One or the other.... but let him help first.
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 17:50:49 (permalink)
    Hi Herb,
    I plan to have a chat with Ralph sometime tomorrow...The time difference makes it a bit difficult. My work involves computers to a degree and I've a reasonable degree of knowledge, you're right I don't open emails from Zimbabwe or anywhere else unless I know the contacts details before hand. It's the first bug in over 12 years of computing

    Symptoms on my machine now indicate that the problems go far beyond Jamstix and I have no option but to reformat.
    I only hope I can get the Cakewalk up and running again without too many headaches. Fortunately I've a little more experience and it shouldn't be as problematic as when I first started.

    Hope I don't lose any projects I am working on....Think I have saved all the necessary files.

    Thanks for getting back anyway ...... Speak Soon
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 23:39:21 (permalink)
    If you have computer experience then you probably know enough to determine that the problem is not program related, so you may have the proper course of action in mind. I had a tremendous slow down a while back, but nothing showed up in the virus scans and the registry editors/cleaners could only do so much. So, the reboot, saved everything important and re-installed windows from a disc, the old backup discs we are supposed to create when we first take the computer out of the box but most never do discs, and the computer ran faster than I could remember. I read an IT site everyday, they suggest re-installing on a re-formatted machine every two years, sooner if necessary.
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/22 23:50:24 (permalink)
    Copy that.
    It's a royal pain in the rear, but I reformat every year or two.
    Registry cleaners and virus scanners only go so far. They all miss something.
    Starting out on a fresh machine is really nice.

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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/23 03:35:04 (permalink)
    You're right Bob..But I may have to get back to you again if I've forgotten anything regards Cakewalk installation..I'll need the EMU website for the Proteus download ..But one thing at a time...Virus scanners work on machines that are heavily used for not much longer tha a couple of years at most, so my little box here is telling me it needs a spring clean.

    As I said am slightly concerned at having saved all the audio backup, would hate to lose all the hard work over that past few weeks...
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/23 08:42:01 (permalink)
    Note of caution...make sure you have all of your account activation/passwords/unlocking code/serial/numbers written down somewhere. How many times we see people can't find their original cd case with the serial number, after they re-loaded from the original cd, if ya know what I mean. Probably don't have to tell you, but then, it is funny the things we think of, nad the things we forget to think of, and the things we forget...huh? Lost my train of thought....
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/23 11:01:23 (permalink)
    Yeah you're right Albert..Got most of it stored on the hotmail server account...Probably forgotten something though..We'll see tonight when I get home after work to install GT3 & MC4
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/23 15:01:53 (permalink)
    You were spot on Albert..
    Thought my registration code was my serial number...Oh well Cakewalk customer support here I come
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    RE: Scanning Problem 2008/10/23 15:08:00 (permalink)
    Log onto your account at the Cakewalk store.
    All of your serial numbers and registration codes should be listed there.
    I printed this page and keep it in a notebook with all of my serial numbers.

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