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Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
I have been using my new Focusite Scarlett 8i6 with Sonar X1. It records fine except that I can’t figure out how to adjust the headphone monitor mix to adjust the volume of what I am recording relative to the rest of the mix. Turning the “monitor” knob on this little red interface has NO EFFECT on the headphone monitor mix. I played around with the Scarlett MixControl software settings but had no luck. But I have to admit, I don’t fully understand these settings. Also note, when I record electric guitar (“Instrument” input setting), I can hear the guitar in my headphones even when the track’s Input Echo is off, but when recording using a microphone (“line” input setting), I cannot hear what is being recorded at all, unless I turn on the track’s Input Echo, but the latency is so awful, I keep it off. Any help appreciated.
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/07 14:31:20
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Why are you using the monitor knob? The headphone knob is for the headphones. Also there are a few configurations within ScarlettMix which can sort of be confusing at first but it's all pretty simple if you play around with stuff as you read through the manual. There are setting you need to pay attention to like whether you are using the DAW for monitoring or you are using the 0 latency monitor feature within ScarlettMix. I've found that the ScarlettMix is pretty much a set and forget it type of thing but you definitely have to read the whole manual and understand what the functions of it do. The latency can be reduced by adjusting the buffers in the ScarlettMix which is also in the manual. You will want to go through the buffer options incrementally until you start experiencing cracks/pops/dropouts/freezes then turn it back up a bit. I can use mine at the lowest setting (1ms) and get around 7ms roundtrip reported in Sonar while I'm tracking but turn it up to the 2ms setting for mixing (which results in about 12ms roundtrip). That depends on how powerful your system is though. Cheers.
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royarn
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/07 14:51:14
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/07 15:02:40
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That vid is for the Saffire MixControl so it's a little different than the Scarlett MixControl. Didn't watch the whole thing but the concepts are likely similar. Just something to be aware of.
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/07 15:43:04
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My unit is the scarlett MixControl looks pretty much the same and Grahams ideas seam to work fine beepster, it certainly helped me to set up a headphone monitoring and a comfort verb using a send in sonar pre fader to an fx bus. Im very pleased with the set up now. Roy
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/07 15:53:29
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Yup. Not saying it wouldn't help but that version looks a little more intricate so I was just giving OP the heads up. It should however, as you said, still be helpful. Cheers.
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/07 18:35:34
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Cool... that is a nicely done video.
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/07 19:54:43
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Thanks for providing me that link to the Saffire mix control (even though a bit different from my Scarlett), which provides me a much better understanding on how to monitor what I am recording. I will play around with it tomorrow (Tuesday) and let you guys know if I have further questions. In the meantime, I still don't know what the "monitor" knob on my Scarlett interface does. There is a separate headphone knob which I use to adjust the volume of the headphone mix, but what does the monitor knob do (currently I hear no change regardless of how I turn it)? Thanks again for all your help.
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/07 20:06:33
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The monitor knob controls the monitor outputs on the back of the interface. I don't mean to sound rude but you really should take a look at the manual. Those units are pretty user friendly.
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/08 01:53:10
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Thanks for trying to help Beepster, but I am still confused about this monitor knob. When I read through the Scarlett manual, it points out the monitor knob but does not really explain what it does or how to use it. If, as you say, the "knob controls the monitor outputs on the back of the interace", then why do I not hear any changes to the outputs I have connected to outputs 1&2, and 3&4 on the back of the unit when I turn the knob? I know I must be missing something pretty basic here, but I still can't figure out what that basic thing is.
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/08 05:37:00
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In my case I'm only using the outputs 1 and 2 which go straight to my powered monitors, the monitor knob then controls my output level to my speakers. I dont know if output 3 and 4 do that also I've not tried it, maybe you can do that From MixControl by selecting output above the faders. Good luck Roy
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/08 07:10:17
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How are you guys that have the 8i6 liking this Scarlett interface; I have been contemplating getting this unit?
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royarn
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/08 07:36:10
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Makeshift : its a nice simple unit with great mike pres at a pretty nice price that will get me to 64bit when I'm ready for the change. so having had to get rid of my Yamaha mLAN gear to go 64 bit wasn't as expensive as I thought, also small enough to take out with a laptop if need be. So all good for me. Roy
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/08 07:57:47
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Huh. That's odd. That really should be effecting the output to your monitors. Is the headphone knob adjusting the level of your headphone output? Maybe you got a unit that wasn't wired correctly... However let's check a couple things... In the output section (the fader at the far right of the ScarlettMix mixer) make sure Mon 1 and Mon 2 are selected at the top of the fader strip. It should be a stereo channel but if not "link" output 1 and 2 by clicking the little button that looks like a broken chain link. Make sure you do not have the Mute or Solo buttons engaged on the output fader. Now go down to the "Routing" section and beside where it says "Routing Preset" press the two buttons and select what you want to output (Inputs, DAW, Mixes... I think you want Mix 1 but any signal should be controlled by the knob). Also make sure you don't have your inputs in the mixer set to Prefade, Solo, etc and you have selected all the correct input sources for each channel. Start playback and fiddle with the knob. If it's still not working I think you'd better get a hold of Focusrite to see what's up. Maybe the the pot didn't get wired or something in the factory. I'm sure they will fix you up. Here's their support contact form. http://www.focusrite.com/answerbase/en/contact.php Good luck.
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/08 08:17:39
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@Makeshift... I've got the 18i6 but it is basically the same unit with a few different routing options (more ins, less outs, no loopback feature). The only thing I can think of to warn anyone about is the fact it isn't a super low latency devices like the Roland or MOTU boxes which supposedly get around 2ms roundtrip. The lowest I've gotten my roundtrip latency on it's fastest setting is around 7ms which is definitely not audible at all. That's what I set it to for tracking and stuff but I turn the buffer up a little when mixing to avoid dropouts and quirkiness (usually I'm getting about 12ms roundtrip at that setting which is again not audible at all). So really it isn't a problem at all if you have a decent computer that can handle those lower settings. I'm running an i7 2600k with 16GB RAM on Win7 just FYI. The things I like: Great sounding pres and high Z Monitor and headphone knobs so you don't need another unit to control levels The box is made of steel and the connections are solid Uses a power adapter so it doesn't drain system power through the USB link Pretty easy to use Comes with some fancy Focusrite plug ins and mine came with Ableton Lite and Novation Basstation (IDK if they still ship with those last two) Works like a champ and just sounds good Their service is really good I don't have this particular function but the 8i6 has a loopback feature so you can record stuff directly from other applications like a web browser without and physical cabling which is cool. Note: I do not work for Focusrite. I think I have to start saying that because of how often I blather on about these units but really I just think it's a really good piece of gear for a lot less than other similar units. Cheers.
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/08 08:22:55
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/08 09:08:41
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Cool, Beep! I will read through your original thread as soon as I can catch up at work. We have a couple of hoops to jump through on 4 projects we picked up from Houston this morning. I appreciate the PM you sent me about this unit a couple of days ago as well. If I can get even close to the round trip latency you are getting, it is going to be way faster than what I am currently running....even on my Phenom Quad Core. I wanted the line in's on the back of this unit so that I could continue to keep my tube preamp connected to the unit, but switch to the Focusrite pre's if I want another flavor.
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/08 09:24:33
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Heh. Sorry, for some reason I didn't realize it was you who PMd me. That thread is kind of long and boring because I detailed every little step of my set up (I was also still a total n00b back then too) but I did put in as much info as I could. This thread however has inspired me to play around with the MixControl a little more as I'm realizing I've forgotten some things and I didn't really attempt any fancy stuff. It just worked almost immediately so I moved on to other stuff. Cheers.
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haskins02
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/14 14:34:41
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I know this thread is old, but I wanted to thank Beepster and others for trying to help me with my Scarlett monitoring problem. I eventually had to contact Focusrite and they quickly were able to identify my problem. The solution was so simple, and my error so dumb, that I am embarrassed to tell you. But the bottom line is that I am back recording, monitoring the correct way this time. Greg
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/14 14:47:25
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If you post the solution it might help others. I'm curious myself. No shame. All this recording stuff is rather confusing... even the basic stuff. Glad you got it working. Cheers.
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Re:Scarlett 8i6 Monitoring Issues
2013/01/15 04:58:14
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Did you connect your rear inputs to the monitors by any chance. Lol Roy
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