savageopera
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"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
My latest "retro-progressive rock" original. First mix. No biab, no loops. I played all parts on my keys. The guitars are Musiclab Realstrat and Superiff. I warbled all vox tracks with no pitch corrector(uh-oh!) All comments and crits welcome. The song is titled "Science Fiction".
post edited by savageopera - 2011/04/25 22:52:10
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/04/25 22:15:51
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hey Ron,
really nice work on the keys/MIDI sounds! not fond of the distortion synth that is running throughout most of it. Im guessing that's supposed to be distortion on one of the guitars or something.
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savageopera
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/04/25 22:28:14
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Thanks for the good words, Beagle. No synth in the mix, I think you're talking about the fret noise on the Realstrat. I kinda like it because I never had it on any other tracks. I wanted a big, thick, overdriven, fretty rythm guitar sound(ala Locomotive Breath by Jethro Tull). It's easy to back it down though so I'll make a note...........appreciate your input........Ron
post edited by savageopera - 2011/04/25 22:59:47
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/04/25 22:33:42
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it has a very catchy hook, too. 
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/04/27 19:36:50
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Thanks again Beagle....................Ron
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/04/30 19:43:26
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I'm looking for crits, reviews, and advice on this first mix............thanks...........Ron
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/04/30 20:24:17
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This is really good! Doesn't sound like any band I've heard before and I love that. I have no advice cept add a little more bass to the mix. Thanks!
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/04/30 21:23:55
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Good one Ron. The sound reminds me of a couple of punkish/new wavish bands that came out of the Gainesville area during the late '70's. That's a compliment because I liked them.
Freddy J
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/04/30 22:41:15
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Cool. Super cool. And you did it all on the keyboard, too?
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savageopera
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/01 10:55:57
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bayoubill, I always liked songs that have only one or two band "punches" per measure leaving a lot of air for the vox and storyline. I'm just starting to use the Musiclab Realstrat and found combined with Voxengo I had a cool "guitar" chop which inspired the arrangement. Thanks for the review and advice................Ron
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/02 21:35:39
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I love this...I like the big, fat, overdriven sound. Vocals sound great too!
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savageopera
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/03 17:01:10
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Freddy J, thanks for the thumbs up. I was trying for a minimalist "power rock" live combo feel, but I'll take the late 70's punk/new wave comparison. I appreciate you taking time to listen and post......."gracias"................Ron
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/04 20:14:43
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Hello Greg. Yes, I did play all parts on my M-Audio 88es keyboard. Drums and bass are TTS-1, organ is M-Audio Keyrig, guitars are Musiclab Realstrat and Superiff. Thank you much for the positive comments and checking this tune out................Ron
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/05 04:34:43
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Hey, Ron,
Really nice job on this cool retro progressive fusion rocker!
Nicely performed, the keys sound great, and the vocals and harmonies are excellent.
Really good stuff, buddy, have a good one!
Bob
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savageopera
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/08 16:47:04
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Thank you Janet, for listening and taking the time to respond. It would be nice to have "real" guitars on this, but the "Realstrat" sure helps a keys guy like me explore possibilities I didn't have before. I toyed with a spacey sweeping phase effect on the vox chorus but decided to keep it straight and so far am glad I did.....your ears mean a lot .........thanks, Ron
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/12 20:48:56
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Hello Bob, sometimes I think I tend to "overproduce" my arrangements so I forced myself to let this tune carry itself. I have a lot to learn about working with guitar samples so I tried to keep the "guitar" parts simple so they would be on the edge of being credible. The vox tracks only have light compression and a slight mid-boost on the eq, then to a small verb in the master buss. I really respect your work, so your comments mean a lot. Thanks a bunch, buddy.........................Ron
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/13 13:08:57
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I can't give any suggestions on the mix because nothing is striking me as "wrong" and I'm not an in depth mix critique guy. I can tell you that I really enjoyed listening to it and it was all good to my ears. Love the harmonies and the vocals. Fit just right. Nice instrumentally too.
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notnat
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/16 10:26:53
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Very cool arrangement.. Well done Ron...
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/17 13:24:06
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Really catchy hook and an interesting feel. It does have a different sound, and that's a good thing in my book. It's pretty remarkable that you did all that on keys.
Mix wise (and this could be a personal taste thing) I'd have liked to have heard more drive from the bass and guitars. The vocals were really good, but it felt to me like they should have been settled a little further back to let that hard driving beat get through.
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savageopera
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/18 19:47:18
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Hey there Warren, it makes my day to hear you enjoyed this song. The voices were a task, several sessions trying to get decent pitch and tone on all the parts. I usually write, then play the vox parts with a keyboard tone on a separate track so I can follow as I try to track them. Thanks for taking time to listen.............Ron
post edited by savageopera - 2011/05/19 21:22:31
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/19 02:07:45
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Can't help ya with the mix, I don't think you need help listening to this on my speakers.
I love the harmonies on this!!!!
WOW!!!! That's some kick arse guitars going on there! Dang!!!!!!!
Excellent!!!!
Serious Noize!
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/19 03:16:53
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Ron,
Nice one. It kind of reminds me of something the Tubes might have done.
I enjoyed listening. I have no crits on the mix.
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/19 03:49:34
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Ron
superb! as everyone has said, for MIDI'd guitars they sound pretty darn good! very well played dude. loving the harmony vocals. the main vox could maybe come down a notch, they are perhaps a little out front. the chorus is cool, like something from War of the Worlds! Drums occasionally have a bit of a metronomic thing to them, are you adjusting velocity (esp on the snare drum?) Excellent though!
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savageopera
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/20 19:31:07
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Hello Mr. Notnat, I always check out your song posts as I have become a fan of your work. Your soulful tunes and great mixes are always a pleasure to hear. Thanks so much for your compliments on my tune. I kicked up the bass and slightly backed off the lead vox and reposted. Appreciate your time to respond here...............thanks.........Ron
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/20 19:52:20
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Cool tune. I think the vox are a little loud and clear. Think they need to come down a bit with some ambience.
Interesting arrangement and production.
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savageopera
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/22 17:45:47
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Phil, thanks for the positives on this. I wasn't trying for a particular sound or genre, just wanted to keep it simple and heavy. I took your advice and backed the vocals slightly and boosted the bass and guitars, we'll see what happens...............Ron
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/22 20:03:30
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Ron - very nice. Scary how good the guitars sound - including the wammy bar effect! I like the hammond you added halfway through - fits right in. The vocal harmonies halfway through reminded me of Zappa a little. Nice vocals.
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/23 10:44:29
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Like the talking heads if they rocked more!!! love it!!
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savageopera
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/24 22:55:43
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Hey Mr. Serious, gracias for the "WOW" on this, you are too kind. I cut this entire song on my laptop in a motel room(I'm a traveling salesman-aerial photography). I have a pair of M-audio av40's for monitors on the road and I really like them. As I posted earlier, the "guitars" are Realsrat and Superiff samples played on my keys....just learning how they work...your input is very welcome...............Ron
post edited by savageopera - 2011/05/24 22:57:12
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Re:"Science Fiction"...a rock tune about "neverlasting love"
2011/05/31 10:59:51
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Hey Thatsastrat, thanks for the good words. I'll take the "Tubes" comparison, many good ears here have helped much. I think the overall eq still needs a tweak...........Ron
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