Tripecac
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Select by measuires (not clips)?
I want to copy a block of tracks from, say, measures 21 through 28.
In Sonar 8.5.3 and earlier, I could alt-drag to select measures within the track view.
However, in Sonar X1, alt-dragging and normal dragging always grab the entire clips.
I *could* split the clips at the end of the last measure I want to copy, but I'd rather figure out how to select by measure rather than by clip.
Any ideas?
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Re:Select by measuires (not clips)?
2012/06/25 23:34:05
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Re:Select by measuires (not clips)?
2012/06/26 00:27:18
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im not sure i understand either the question or that "snap to grid reply" ?
but you can still select the data from a clip only you need not use alt any more.
the clip is moving because of the place your draging in,try the upper half of the clip when draging to select your data.
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Re:Select by measuires (not clips)?
2012/06/26 00:36:58
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In 8.5 I select the tracks containing the info I need and then drag along the timeline to select the region I want to copy. The snap-to-grid comment is suggesting that that feature be turned on and set so as to snap to one measure. That way you'll be selecting entire measures and not portions thereof. Does this not work in X1? (not trying to be sarcastic - I haven't upgraded and really don't know)
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Re:Select by measuires (not clips)?
2012/06/26 02:14:09
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Tripecac - other than snap to grid, which is great for a clean measure grab as suggested, another go to method I use is Select By Time. You can Control A (select all tracks) and select all tracks for a range of measures or just select a few tracks and then select by time. With select by time you can easily specify what range of stuff you want to copy, move, delete, etc. And you don't have to be moving stuff from the start of a measure, you can pick what spot you need.
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Re:Select by measuires (not clips)?
2012/06/26 02:37:30
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In 8.5 I select the tracks containing the info I need and then drag along the timeline to select the region I want to copy. The snap-to-grid comment is suggesting that that feature be turned on and set so as to snap to one measure. That way you'll be selecting entire measures and not portions thereof. Does this not work in X1? (not trying to be sarcastic - I haven't upgraded and really don't know)
Ditto. I'm not familiar with Alt-drag, maybe that's what's causing the problem. Select track or clip, left-click and drag in the timeline to select region (which is affected by the snap option). I can't imagine that after all these years they would have suddenly altered this, have they? I don't have X1 either.
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Re:Select by measuires (not clips)?
2012/06/26 02:51:55
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Looks like Charlie has you covered. Make sure you start the selection lasso or drag in the top half of a clip, then click and drag in the bottom half. No need for modifiers. (That's assuming you are using the smart tool of course)
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Re:Select by measuires (not clips)?
2012/06/26 03:24:13
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I guess those that don't own X1 get ignored. Hope I can afford to be "cool" someday.
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Re:Select by measuires (not clips)?
2012/06/26 05:40:09
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SToons
I guess those that don't own X1 get ignored. Hope I can afford to be "cool" someday.
Not sure if you think I'm ignoring you (which I'm not) but in X1 the behaviour will vary depending on where in the clip you first click, hence my clarification.
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Tripecac
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Re:Select by measuires (not clips)?
2012/06/26 13:35:39
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Here is a video of alt-dragging in Sonar 8.5.3: http://tripalot.com/issue...sonar-853-alt-drag.avi I'd love to be able to do that in X1, but alt-dragging seems to be the same as dragging, so it just lassos clips (which ends up selecting clips outside of the selection box). What is "Snap to Grid" in X1? Is that different from the Snap By/Snap To options for moving clips around? My Track View is set to Snap by Value (measure). I don't see an option to change "measure" to "grid", and I prefer "Snap By" to "Snap To" since my clips rarely start exactly on the first beat of the measure. I've tried the Ctrl-A and then timeline dragging approach, but it seems to grab hidden tracks as well, which is not what I want. And clicking on individual tracks and then jumping up to the timeline seems laborious. Do you see how easy grid-based dragging is in 8.5.3? Is there any way to do that in X1?
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Re:Select by measuires (not clips)?
2012/06/26 14:00:20
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I can't open the video so I can't see what you mean. Have you tried my suggestion in post #7? Left click and drag to lasso select a segment of time across multiple clips. Just make sure you start in the top half of a clip. It will follow any snap setting though as you'd expect so make sure that's set correctly or off. Then click and drag, it'll just take the selected area, not whole clips or anything outside of the area. Hold ctrl while dragging to copy rather than move if that's what you want. No modifiers needed, just left click. That's how it works here anyway. Very rough silent movie here.
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Re:Select by measuires (not clips)?
2012/06/26 19:25:51
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bmdaustin
In 8.5 I select the tracks containing the info I need and then drag along the timeline to select the region I want to copy. The snap-to-grid comment is suggesting that that feature be turned on and set so as to snap to one measure. That way you'll be selecting entire measures and not portions thereof. Does this not work in X1? (not trying to be sarcastic - I haven't upgraded and really don't know)
yes it still works,but the op didnt ask about snap to grid,he asked how he can drag in the timeline to copy a part to another track,rather then creating splits every 4 or 5 beats. to the op- you dont need snap to grid if they are going in the same places on other track when selecting the track drag at the top of the clip like explained before..once it is shadedhold control and shift at the same time and drag it to another track. it will copy and keep it snaped to the same location... as far as 8.5 old news buddy move on now. the smart tool is where its at,way faster ..way better. once you learn how to use it youll be saying 8.5 is clunky. you need to learn about the smart tool buddy,just open the x1 manual and read the whole chapter on the smart tool. it does way more then 8.5 ever did. cuts my production time in half,so when you say it was better in 8.5 and ask do i see that? no...no idont. ps...another trick for doing multiple tracks..drag in the timeline till it turns grey.then select your tracks,or vice versa. then you can drag all of them at once.
post edited by chuckebaby - 2012/06/26 19:32:31
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