Makke
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Serene forenoon (new version No. 2)
An original tune, played Garritan GPO4 strings with midi-keyboards added a new version number 2 Hillside Synths - Serene forenoon 
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/14 12:24:23
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Nice composition. The only suggestion I would have would be to send everything to a Medium Hall or Chamber to add some reverb/dimension to the piece.
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/14 13:59:56
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I agree the composition is engaging however it sounds in very unnatural space.
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/14 14:20:55
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markno999
Nice composition. The only suggestion I would have would be to send everything to a Medium Hall or Chamber to add some reverb/dimension to the piece.
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Wookiee
I agree the composition is engaging however it sounds in very unnatural space.
Thanks for the listening and comments There is on every string track Garritan players own concert hall effect. ....hmmm.. maybe too little, because I wanted that it does not sound like too big.
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/14 20:38:56
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I like the piece, but echo Mr. no999's comments about the hall. Also, the GPO :-( It's good from a far, but far from good... Try EWQL Gold if you can? Also, work on the cc codes for articulation/vibrato. And then finally, riding the faders to make it breath better (in conjunction of course with the instrument panning which I'm sure you've already done)
So Strings? (like this) should sit "Left to right" as they probably do. However, they should also sit "in the hall..." With some being closer (less verb) and some sitting farther away (more verb)
Then there's that whole tricky legato/vibrato/butter sustain thing? It all needs to breath and at the same time fit together? It's non-trivial... It takes hours/weeks of trial and error. But in the end? It's worth it.
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/15 04:00:00
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I like the piece, but echo Mr. no999's comments about the hall. Also, the GPO :-( It's good from a far, but far from good... Try EWQL Gold if you can? Also, work on the cc codes for articulation/vibrato. And then finally, riding the faders to make it breath better (in conjunction of course with the instrument panning which I'm sure you've already done)
So Strings? (like this) should sit "Left to right" as they probably do. However, they should also sit "in the hall..." With some being closer (less verb) and some sitting farther away (more verb)
Then there's that whole tricky legato/vibrato/butter sustain thing? It all needs to breath and at the same time fit together? It's non-trivial... It takes hours/weeks of trial and error. But in the end? It's worth it.
thanks for the listening and reply Good tips Strings are panned left to right violin 1, violin 2, viola and cello... maybe too tight, on the other hand too wide gets listener sitting in the middle of the orchestra. playing with keyboards It's difficult to get sounds like real strings As you wrote, I have a lot to do with reverbs, panning and faders to get more dynamic and better sounding track
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/15 08:50:44
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I like it! Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/15 13:13:16
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As a die hard rocker it's nice to sit back and listen to classical pieces. I enjoyed this one.
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/15 14:40:38
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tagruvto
I like it! Thanks for sharing.
philz
As a die hard rocker it's nice to sit back and listen to classical pieces. I enjoyed this one.
Thanks for the listening and comments
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/15 14:46:10
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/15 18:50:21
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Sittin downtown in a railway station one toke over the line.
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/19 12:54:41
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Very nice piece and well played.
Thanks for posting.
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/21 14:14:43
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Very nice piece and well played.
Thanks for posting.
Thanks for the listening and comment
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/29 14:38:44
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Nice composition! I only listened to the second version but I think the reverb level is pretty good.
As far as adding realism goes, that's usually outside of what you played into SONAR. I'd recommend splitting your strings into separate MIDI tracks and using a combination of Modulation (GPO uses this for volume) and Pitch CCs and possibly the track MIDI Volume as well on the individual parts. That way you can get each part to breathe a little more (as Robbie noted) without having the entire section follow the same pattern.
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/29 15:29:36
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Nice composition! I only listened to the second version but I think the reverb level is pretty good.
As far as adding realism goes, that's usually outside of what you played into SONAR. I'd recommend splitting your strings into separate MIDI tracks and using a combination of Modulation (GPO uses this for volume) and Pitch CCs and possibly the track MIDI Volume as well on the individual parts. That way you can get each part to breathe a little more (as Robbie noted) without having the entire section follow the same pattern.
Thanks for the listening and tips. Something like that I've tried to do. In the Sonar strings have their own tracks and I've done own settings for them. Difficult to get software strings sounds like real 
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/30 18:24:46
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Oh, I hear ya.  I've found in some cases that over-exaggerating the intended result can sometimes work better in context since everything is based on static samples. Trial and error and all that.
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/07/30 19:25:51
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It doesnt sound like the real deal but at the end of the day it doesnt really matter,
the composition sounds great.
Dunno what religion you are but you should get the local fiddle crew to flake out a version of it at church :-)
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/08/06 04:14:38
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It doesnt sound like the real deal but at the end of the day it doesnt really matter,
the composition sounds great.
Dunno what religion you are but you should get the local fiddle crew to flake out a version of it at church :-)
Cian
Thanks for the listening and a comment
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/08/06 05:20:43
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Very nice arrangement. I think the trick in adding realism might be to simply change a few velocities and lessen the degree of vibrato, maybe some very small timing changes ( nudge ever so lightly)...a really fine piece of music though!
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/08/07 11:26:48
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Starise
Very nice arrangement. I think the trick in adding realism might be to simply change a few velocities and lessen the degree of vibrato, maybe some very small timing changes ( nudge ever so lightly)...a really fine piece of music though!
Thanks for the listening and comment. hmm.. I guess there is some variety on velocity and timing, 'cause I played every instrument with velocity-sensitive keyboards, and I didn't use quantize in Sonar tracks
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/08/08 20:07:50
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This is nice. I like string ensembles quite a bit. I have no idea about midi coding either. I can write the music but all that articulation and whatever, I'm lost.
Well done!
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Re: Serene forenoon
2014/08/09 16:37:39
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Guitarpima
This is nice. I like string ensembles quite a bit. I have no idea about midi coding either. I can write the music but all that articulation and whatever, I'm lost.
Well done!
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