Session Drummer 3 - High Hat position is backwards

Hi Everyone,
 
I'm hoping someone can help steer me on this one.  I am trying to record live midi drums into Sonar X1 producer expanded into session drummer 3. I am using an Alesis Dm10 and my trigger setup doesn't make a difference becuase even playing the built in loops into session drummer has the same effect as if i use live triggers instead.  I have all the triggers setup and triggering fine and I can record a midi track successfully into sonar/session drummer 3 with only one big issue...  
 
The open and closed position of the high hat is backwards.  Meaning when it is open it sounds closed and when it is closed, it sounds open.  The pedal is calibrated fine becuase if I listen the AUDIO out of the DM10 is is correct.  only the midi notes being sent are backwards. I can hear this when i play back the midi through session drummer 3.  The big problem is that the high hat midi notes in the DM10 are fixed and cannot be changed. which brings me to my question:
 
Is there a way to assign (or reverse) the midi note assignments in sonar/session drummer for the high hat?  If I can reverse the open/close position, I'm home free to record drums midi since this reversed high hat  issue is my only problem. all else works great.
 
 
For the last 20+ years, I've been recording audio only and this is my first attempt at recording drums midi for the sake of using better samples, and of course editing!   :)
 
Thanks for any assistance you may be able to provide! It is appreciated!
:)
Pat
 
 

Thanks for the reply jb,  I was under the impression that the drum map was to assign midi notes that went external to outboard signal processing devices only.  OK,  i think i know how to create a drum map. I'll experiment.
 
Is there an easy way to "grab" what midi notes are being sent from an external device to Sonar?  Meaning, if I record a few bars of drum track and then look at the recording, what is the easiest way to see what midi notes were sent?  Would that be in piano roll view or is there a better way?
 
Thank you!
Pat

I'd answer but your username offends me hehe

(not really :) ) 


it sounds like a few possibles

1)the order of the data being sent , some midi devices perhaps like it the other way round.

2)your base octave is wrong.. in prefs you have the option to + or - it.. so if you +1 it c3 becomes c4 etc..
if your triggering loops , it suggests your 1 octave to low.. you can easily check that in the PRV which will show you the not info..  

3)play the drums and see whats it giving in PRV and remap using a drum map, so your in / out notes get fixed to what they actually should be.


hopefully that helps... and no kicking ta very much if it don't 

You can also go to the folders of the SD3-content:
For exampel:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Cakewalk\Vstplugins\Session Drummer 3\Contents\Kits\8 - Rides:
Then edit the *.sfz-Files with notepad: 
 
...
<region> sample=14__THIN.wav  --->> SAMPLE
key=51     ---->> KEY
ampeg_decay=1.062
...

And save it.
So you can change all notes and wavefiles.
There is no other way to do this in SD3.

Whoops disregard folks..  I think I fuigured it out.  I found the right click on track - assign output to map, much like assigning a track to a bus so i think that has me all set.  
Well...  now I have to play with the mappings but I'm in the right direction at least.
 
Thanks again everyone!!
 
Your help is sincerely appreciated
 
Pat
 

Thanks everyone!  and thanks for the screenshot Robert.  So i have one interesting issue left to solve.  With your folks help, I am well versed in switching notes 42 and 46 so that my hat open and closed are reversed.   Now... I have a different issue:
 
The midi notes being received on Hi Hat closed AND open are both 46.   For example.... we hit record.... we hit the high hat open, then close the foot pedal and hit the high hat again in the closed position.  The midi results of this test are a high hat open note...  the pedal closed note and another high hat open note (46), even though the pedal is closed. 
 
The pedal is calibrated fine since the audio out of the DM10 sounds perfect.. closed, open, etc.  Also.. if i run the built in tracks in the dm 10 for a demo so to speak.. i can clearly hear and see the high hat being played closed and open just fine in session drummer, so I know the DM10 is capable of sending the right notes, but for some reason it is not when we depress the pedal for the closed hat position.  As I said, the pedal is calibrated fine and it is even reading the pedal press fine by presenting that midi note correclty as well.  But I am getting note 46 (open) regardless of pedal position.  Any ideas?
 
On JB's recommendation,  I am planning to buy EZ or Superior Drummer but I don't want to spend that money until i'm convinced the DM10 and pedal setup is working well first.  And since I assume it doesn't matter what you are using for a midi drum processor, I am guessing I will have the same problem in Superior drummer since the midi notes are received before it even gets to the processing part... correct?
 
Thanks again for your help everyone,  any input is welcome and sincerely appreciated.
 
Pat
 
 
 

Another possible way around this...

Not sure if the DM10 is the same, but the DM5 has a feature where it will auto detect whether the hi-hat pedal is normally open or normally closed.  If you hold down the hi-hat pedal while switching the DM5 on, it will invert the pedal.  This will make the onboard sound back to front, but if you are using it as a controller only, it will fix your problem without having to set up a drum map.

Hi there, been reading your post as I have been having the same issue with midi hi-hats using my Roland TD-12 as a trigger sound module.
I found that the CC note in the midi control window on my TD-12 (you should have a setting on ur module) was defaulted at 127. If you turn it down to say 50 this should get rid of the conflicts u r having.