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Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer

I recently purchased SONAR 6 Producer Edition. I was using Finale 2007 to compose orchestra works, but I saw the effects and advantages that SONAR had over Finale. The only problem is that I cannot for the life of me figure out how to set up the EWQL Gold in Sonar. Could someone please help me get SONAR up and running with EWQL so I can start composing again?

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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 07:40:38 (permalink)
    Did you install the DXi or VSTi version? If VSTi, did you run VST scanner -- and make sure it points to the folder in which EWQL was installed?

    Are you having trouble with other soft synths or only this one?

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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 07:49:47 (permalink)
    Tools--> Cakewalk Plug- In Manager--> Options--> Add.... and find your gold's VST dll

    Uncheck Re- scan existing plug- ins


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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 07:53:10 (permalink)
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    I added both the VST and DX folders to SONAR. The Kompakt interface comes up, yet when I load an instrument and strike keys, I hear no sound!
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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 07:54:27 (permalink)
    http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/dmknappy/?action=view¤t=global.jpg

    I apologize, I posted the wrong tag.
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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:04:47 (permalink)
    Did both tracks (midi and audio) get inserted?

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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:13:31 (permalink)
    When I open SONAR from the dektop icon i get this message: http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/dmknappy/?action=view¤t=FirstError.jpg

    After I open a new (normal template) it looks like this: http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/dmknappy/?action=view¤t=MainScreen.jpg

    The Synth Rack view looks like this (I do not know what to use): http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/dmknappy/?action=view¤t=SynthRackView.jpg

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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:28:07 (permalink)
    When you insert a soft synth, a options dialog box should come up...make sure audio outputs and midi inputs are checked.

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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:28:10 (permalink)
    This is with the EWQLGold 1 synth loaded:
    http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/dmknappy/?action=view¤t=EWloaded.jpg
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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:30:40 (permalink)
    Smth wrong with your sound card.. You probably can't run 2 sound program at a same time.. For instance, close your winamp or media player, there should only be sonar


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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:34:19 (permalink)
    The Synth Options look like this:

    http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/dmknappy/?action=view¤t=Synthoptions.jpg

    I can check no more than one audio output at a time

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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:36:00 (permalink)
    Tick on "first synth audio output"

    Before that you must get rid of audio warning when you click on sonar exe


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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:36:54 (permalink)
    I closed all apps using the sound card, I have no clue what could be running other than Sonar.
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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:37:30 (permalink)
    What is this realtek HD thing? Onboard sound card?


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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:38:19 (permalink)
    Built in Sound Card...wish i had the Creative X-Fi
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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:41:40 (permalink)
    If sonar says following drivers do not support these.. There is sound card problem, i have no experience with onboard sound cards.. Maybe someone can help, i've heard about asioall drivers, but i dunno much about it


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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:43:24 (permalink)
    I soon plan of purchasing the Creative Labs X-Fi Elite:
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1618855&Sku=C44-3226

    Thanks for your help and time. By the way, I compose with mouse also!
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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:53:00 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: dmknappy
    Thanks for your help and time. By the way, I compose with mouse also!


    But i am the best mouse music production man ever


    I don't suggest any kind of Creative sound cards.. If you have limited budged try ESI Juli@ or Maya.. Or cheaper M audio pci cards


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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 08:57:54 (permalink)
    I upgraded the sound driver and that message did NOT appear, so that eliminates one of our problems


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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 09:01:47 (permalink)
    I am able to strike notes on the Kompakt interface, the mixer becomes active, but i hear no sound
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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 09:11:09 (permalink)
    Realtek HD Audio cards dont work in notify mode. Sonar cannot use a card that doesn't allow it to work in notify mode. You can try to use the drives that come preinstalled with Vista, but I doubt that will work either.
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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 09:15:54 (permalink)
    BTW, it's called "Event/Notification mode".

    You can try this (From Noel, Cakewalk CTO)

    There is an interim solution however until Realtek writes a notify mode WaveRT capable driver. You can use the built in Microsoft HDAudio.sys class driver. I have tested this driver with the RealTek chipset and it works properly. To use this driver you must first uninstall the realtek driver and then when you get the new hardware prompt navigate to the folder in Windows that contains the .inf files. It should find the Microsoft HD Audio device as a default driver there. Use that driver.
    Once the MS driver is installed you should get working WaveRT output in SONAR.
    Another thing you might need to do (I had to do this on the system I tested with). The BIOS was incorrectly reporting some info to the Microsoft driver and I got no inputs reported. If you have this problem the solution is to get a BIOS update from HP (which they probably don't have haha<g>) or get what is called a "pin config" registry patch.
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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 09:22:41 (permalink)
    I have an old Sound Blaster Audigy that I could install. Should I try that before what you suggest?

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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 09:29:21 (permalink)
    I would try that. It's more likey to work than the other suggestion. Just be sure to get a copy of your realtek drivers, because you'll need to delete them before installing the SB drivers. I don't know if the SB will work correctly under Vista, but I am almost sure that they did in XP. Only thing is, if you do any kind of recording (of audio), you'll have extremly poor latency.
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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 09:30:50 (permalink)
    I am familiar with the Audigy performance, but not in the field of sequencing. Creative has a Vista driver for their cards now.

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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 09:44:10 (permalink)
    I loaded my Creative Audigy Sound Card and I am registering sound, but it is poping and crackly...

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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 09:45:51 (permalink)
    Go to options, audio, advanced. Increase the buffer size to around 200 and something. Try for 256. Check to see what driver you are using *(WDM)*, and increase latency (after changing buffer size).
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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 10:02:29 (permalink)
    These are the audio properties I currently have set and I am getting popping noises while play the VI:

    http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/dmknappy/?action=view¤t=AudioProperitiesGeneral.jpg

    http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/dmknappy/?action=view¤t=AudioPropertiesAdvanced.jpg

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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 10:06:28 (permalink)
    I/O buffer size. I told you to increase it to 256.

    Latency, you do know that setting it too high, is just as bad as setting it too low right?

    But 2 things, that are very important.

    1. You are using a soundcard ment for people who play video games. Not for someone using a serious audio aplication.

    2. You have all kinds of crap running in the background, and Vista is already a memory hog.
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    RE: Setting up EWQL Gold in SONAR 6 Producer 2007/08/13 10:11:27 (permalink)
    Then I must go with the Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro Sound Card! Finally an excuse to get it. Thanks guys for all the support!

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