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2017/12/05 23:04:07 (permalink)

Sharing Sonar's serial numbers?

Third Party Developers are asking for screen prints of serial numbers. I thought this wasn't advised, but no one is questioning it!
 
Does is not matter now with Cake's collapse?

 
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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/05 23:07:59 (permalink)
Not to me.
 
I'll just not share it with users (of any DAW).
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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/05 23:15:33 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby stratman70 2017/12/05 23:31:50
They validate the serial number by trying it with a SONAR install. They have no other way (e.g. checking with Cakewalk) to verify that you are a legitimate owner. It doesn't even verify that YOU are the owner, only that the serial number you gave them is legit. I'm sure they're storing it along with your email address to make sure the S/N isn't used more than once.
 
The worst that could happen is somebody hacks their database and publishes a gazillion serial numbers online. Somebody in Czechoslovakia might qualify for lifetime updates under your name! 


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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/05 23:18:54 (permalink)
That's a really short lifetime then.
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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/05 23:31:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/12/05 23:38:42
What I'd , if your talking about the True Piano deal.. give them the serial for 8.5. That's already been hacked a million times anyways. I just won't use my Splat numbers those are collectables now. 

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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/05 23:37:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/12/05 23:39:19
Well, I have all my CW install files, I mean including ones that are disks going back to CWPA 9 thru  plat, every single upgrade except Sonar xl I think, can't find CWPA 6,7 & 8 though.
Also purchased reaper a while back but license is good thru v5.99 I won't be giving my Serial to anyone. 
If I run out of ideas to run Sonar (big if considering I am still on w8.1x64 on daw and laptop is w7x64.
 
I would just assume learn reaper for $60 than spend $$$ on a crossgrade that I may never have to use. But I am only home studio, so easier for me to say.
 

 
 
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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/05 23:43:03 (permalink)
If someone (illegally) gets my serial and installs and activates SONAR Platinum (a now defunct product) who relay cares? Only Gibson and they have bigger problems than that.
 
Again, not that I am going to give my serial# to anyone other than a reputable vendor (i.e. Overloud so far for me).
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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/05 23:59:04 (permalink)
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What I'd , if your talking about the True Piano deal.. give them the serial for 8.5. That's already been hacked a million times anyways. I just won't use my Splat numbers those are collectables now. 


It came up again in the TruePianos thread, but it's just overcloud I need t d it with (I have full AAS, and never didn't install TruePianos). They're asking for a screenprint. I had never thought of loading up my old laptop and taking a screen print from that. But when Bit says something is cool, my doubt ends there.


Thanks Bapu too
 

 
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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/06 00:14:15 (permalink)
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Well, I have all my CW install files, I mean including ones that are disks going back to CWPA 9 thru  plat, every single upgrade except Sonar xl I think, can't find CWPA 6,7 & 8 though.
Also purchased reaper a while back but license is good thru v5.99 I won't be giving my Serial to anyone. 
If I run out of ideas to run Sonar (big if considering I am still on w8.1x64 on daw and laptop is w7x64.
 
I would just assume learn reaper for $60 than spend $$$ on a crossgrade that I may never have to use. But I am only home studio, so easier for me to say.
 



I'm not going anywhere, I'm happy to stay with Sonar, I'm intrigued with what extra I'd get with Breverb, and having RE-Matrix as a VST. (I have TH3 full). 
 
I've grabbed Overture 5, so the reverbs may come in useful for that, though I'm still mixing in Sonar.......Actually, maybe I should get TruePianos Amber then.
 

 
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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/06 00:24:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/12/06 00:35:38
I have been working with a friend with Sonar Studio - he now gets a free upgrade to Platinum !
 
Feel stupid now for not doing this earlier.
 
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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/06 00:26:45 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/12/06 06:56:35
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That's a really short lifetime then.

Indeed. Especially since Czechoslovakia has not existed for 25 years now! 😎

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovakia

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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/06 06:00:06 (permalink)
It takes more than a serial number to activate Sonar.  So just the serial alone is not enough to pirate your copy.
 
The Sonar X1-X3 series also require a registration code that is tied to your user ID and email address. 
 
Platinum requires an activation server, plus your user ID and password.  And it is probably locked to you machine as well. 
 
Don't panic! 

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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/06 08:08:42 (permalink)
I gave mine to Studio One 3 to get the offer. Nothing wrong with it. Sonar has gone splat. Who cares!

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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/06 10:59:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby glasser 2017/12/06 12:22:57
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They validate the serial number by trying it with a SONAR install. They have no other way (e.g. checking with Cakewalk) to verify that you are a legitimate owner.
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The worst that could happen is somebody hacks their database and publishes a gazillion serial numbers online. Somebody in Czechoslovakia might qualify for lifetime updates under your name! 

 
You are totally wrong here, bitflipper!
 
1. Serial numbers are not enough to activate SONAR. In fact, Cakewalk username and password is needed - even for the offline activation. So, it's technically impossible for a 3rd party to validate your S/N by trying it with a SONAR install. Moreover, it would be too time-consuming as well as legally objectionable. The 3rd parties would just store your SONAR serials along with your purchase and that's it!
 
2. If you are going to propagate those stereotypes about Eastern Europeans then beware that it only reinforces other stereotypes about Americans. Especially when you know nothing about Czechia and Slovakia (the former Czechoslovakia). Yes, I am Czech and I wouldn't say that our country is full of hackers and thieves. In case you would bother to find Czechia on a map - it's located approximately in the center of Europe.
 
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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/06 12:49:21 (permalink)
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I gave mine to Studio One 3 to get the offer. Nothing wrong with it. Sonar has gone splat. Who cares!


I care, because I'm still using it, and will continue to use it until it really goes splat. We have been informed, though I don't know how reliably, that an authorisation method will be provided should the servers be pulled. I don't know how that would work and and not familiar enough with the ULA to risk that for some software registrations I don't currently or really need. I was being safe than sorry.
 
That said, I am satisfied with the answers given above.

 
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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/06 17:40:27 (permalink)
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 Yes, I am Czech and I wouldn't say that our country is full of hackers and thieves. In case you would bother to find Czechia on a map - it's located approximately in the center of Europe.
 

I totally support you there. Stereo-types are harmful and don't help anyone.
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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/07 01:51:00 (permalink)
Perhaps all authentication for 3rd party plugins was not done by Cakewalk directly but actually with the 3rd party software company through the cakewalk site and that is why they can check the serial numbers??
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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/07 17:30:03 (permalink)
I just don't see the likelihood of someone starting a vast underground ring of Cakewalk serial numbers.  A person who wants to steal something like true pianos would likely find it easier to simply get cracked version.
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Re: Sharing Sonar's serial numbers? 2017/12/07 23:38:53 (permalink)
When I crossgraded to Studio One 3 I was hesitant to upload my Sonar Platinum serial number, but I found the "lifetime" upgrade receipt from Cleverbridge attached to the confirmation email from last summer. And it worked perfectly. Shouldn't the receipt work with any vendor?
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