Should the Split tool be bound by Snap Settings?

Using the Smart Tool, you can hold down the Alt key and a nice little scissors icon appears with a clear vertical line which shows were your split will be.  That is, it will unless you have Snap Settings engaged.  If Snap is engaged, it will jump to the nearest Snap point and split there.
 
I would expect that if I am taking the time to point my little scissors icon at a certain position in an wave file graphic then I would want it to split there and not someplace else.  Once I have isolated a range of time where the timing was a bit off by splitting it into a separate clip, at that point I might then want Snap to be engaged as I dragged it into position in a "move to" or  a "move by" Snap.  Currently, I have to press F12 to turn Snap on or off as I make my splits and then move them into alignment. 
 
I think a product with the name "Smart Tool" would be able to be set up to understand that if I have the ALT key pressed, then I intend to split at the position of the mouse and not the now time even when Snap is engaged.
 
Wouldn't that be reasonable?  Is there a setting or technique that I might have missed?

The Split tool should definitely be influenced by Snap to Grid, especially splitting audio so you can be sure you're splitting at zero crossings. If you don't want it to be, just press F12 to turn it off and the press F12 to turn it back on.

Split has always been influenced by Snap to Grid.

Scott

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I would rather it snap when snap is on surely.
I hear where you're coming from but I gotta agree to disagree here.

I key bound my snap on/off toggle to n key instead so it is closer to my fingers...

F12 is too far! lol

garrigus


The Split tool should definitely be influenced by Snap to Grid, especially splitting audio so you can be sure you're splitting at zero crossings. If you don't want it to be, just press F12 to turn it off and the press F12 to turn it back on.

Split has always been influenced by Snap to Grid.

Scott

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Let me see if I can convince you....

In context of editing a bass track for example and considering fade in and out options at the beginning and ends of clips are we clinging to requirements that are years old with the snap to zero crossings?  Back in the day we needed to do that because we didn't want pops and clicks.   But we have other options now.  Most times I am going to have a fade in and out on a clip so my clips always start at zero and end at zero. 

Now when I schooch a certain note back a smidge so that I can fix that spot where the bass player got a little anxious and pushed it at tad, I am going to have an overlap that I will likely have to adjust anyway as well as a leading boundary that I will have to move back in time to fill the hole that I just left.  Each of those overlaps will have and automatic cross fade so why am I worried about a zero crossing?

I also considered whether it would be possible to temporarily suspend Snap with a key press and hold.  IOW, if you pressed ALT+ Left Button you go standard rules applying but if you held Ctrl + ALT + Left mouse the split would occur at the mouse position and would override the Snap settings.

Yea, my business line is mostly editing voiceover for radio and tv production.  I just keep my Snap on absolute time at work so I can cut where I please.  At my music production studio I default back to the musical time grid...unless I'm editing as Dave suggested above...then it's temporarily back to absolute time.  I also don't know why we can't have a "qualifier" key to hold down to temporarily shift to absolute time.

chrisharbin


I'm of two minds. I can see where MB and others are coming from but for whatever reason it seems perfectly logical that the "snipper" snap to whatever the settings are.

@F12 being too far: lol! I feel the same way!

True.  I just snagged the "V" key away from the Video view which I never use.  A lot closer to the ALT key.