kday
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Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
If Cakewalk plan on releasing an X1c - They should release a beta version to the public FIRST for additional and a more thorough bug testing and report b4 releasing the official version. The public will always discover things that the limited beta tester team will not. This way cakewalk can discover more bugs that previous fixes and new feature additions could possibly have created. Microsoft and many other companies do it this way as a standard. There is a consensus of what works best, I used to be a beta tester.
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/20 16:53:40
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kday If Cakewalk plan on releasing an X1c - They should release a beta version to the public FIRST for additional and a more thorough bug testing and report b4 releasing the official version. The public will always discover things that the limited beta tester team will not. This way cakewalk can discover more bugs that previous fixes and new feature additions could possibly have created. Microsoft and many other companies do it this way as a standard. There is a consensus of what works best, I used to be a beta tester. They did. Its called X1 a and b! Just kidding bakers! Brian
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/20 16:55:54
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Stone House Studios kday If Cakewalk plan on releasing an X1c - They should release a beta version to the public FIRST for additional and a more thorough bug testing and report b4 releasing the official version. The public will always discover things that the limited beta tester team will not. This way cakewalk can discover more bugs that previous fixes and new feature additions could possibly have created. Microsoft and many other companies do it this way as a standard. There is a consensus of what works best, I used to be a beta tester. They did. Its called X1 a and b! Just kidding bakers! Brian You beat me to it! Grum.
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/20 17:09:16
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grumbleweed4162 They did. Its called X1 a and b! Just kidding bakers! Brian You beat me to it! Grum. Me too. Bub.
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/20 17:47:01
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I'm sure it is being beta tested right now - just not publically. Microsoft only releases certain programs for public beta (e.g OS and browser) - most of their software is NOT tested publically. Part of that has to do with a customer base of 100 million.
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/20 18:05:23
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There's a lot riding on X1C. You know the rule ... 3 strikes and your out.
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/20 18:12:43
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Gotta be completely honest here. This update will be make/break for me. I fired up 8.5.3 today for the first time in ages and it felt like visiting an old friend that I knew extraordinarily well. Maybe I'm old and stuck in my wys but I am sick of the constant "little" problems with X1 and also fairly certain that the GUI is completely unintuitive whereas 8.5.3 pretty much had everything I needed RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. Wishing I hadn't bought it as there really is nothing compelling for me in it.....
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/20 20:09:49
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In a word NO. IT will be what it will be. Cakewalk will be doing their best to give us all a premium DAW. I don't expect it to be perfect but I expect CW to keep working in it until it is smooth as a baby's butt. We now have really good processors, we have 64bit windows, we have drivers that are better and better. Everything iscoming together to create the environment for them to produce a DAW that will run like it should if... you have a new computer and interface. Any chain is only as strong as its weakest link. There are two laws at work here. There is Murphy's law: if anything will go wrong it will and there is Moore's law: that the number of transistors on a chip double every year (that may have slowed a bit but it stil holds). Moores law is going to overcome Murphy's law very soon. Listen to people like Jim at Studiocat and if he is able to run X1 without problems then so should you. I truly think that since the price of an awesome computer has become affordable, if you get one and an interface that is new and jam up, you have your DAW setup by a pro like Jim... you are going to be happy. That is my opinion. They will get it right. If it still needs tweaking, they will be on it... but now is the time to make sure all your hardware is up to the task of making good use of the new software, OS, and drivers. Have faith. Look for the good. If it just does not suit you, move on to something else. Julien
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/20 20:12:45
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You know the rule ... 3 strikes and your out. Bub, you ain't going nowhere... Julien
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/20 21:18:55
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@OP Oh You. Like that's gonna happen or even help for that matter. We're the beta testers. Bring it on btw Cakewalk. I'm hoping for a scrollable ProChannel Oh and a Pony too. A nice one.
post edited by bitman - 2011/07/20 21:25:57
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/21 11:46:45
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I don't suppose anyone is interested but I got into a "conversation" on another forum with a guy who bought X1 (as he hadn't tried Sonar) and now he doesn't have X1 as it just didn't work as advertised. I hope "c" makes Sonar closer to what the users want rather than what Cakewalk thought would be a good idea. Grum.
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John T
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/21 12:27:04
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Given that it's going to be a free update, I'm not sure how putting it out and calling it a beta would be significantly different from just putting it out.
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pwal
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/21 12:35:05
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more people could test & possibly find bugs, same as any other beta...
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John T
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/21 12:40:58
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Well... yes. But that's true whatever they choose to call it. As always with a software update, you can choose to apply it right away, or you can wait and see if other users say it's okay. All that would be different would be the nomenclature.
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pwal
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/21 12:50:38
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"beta" implies "pre-release" as in, anything left to fix/change before we release it
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John T
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/21 12:55:16
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Well, yes, that's my point, in the case of free updates, it kind of makes no odds. It's merely an "implication"; there are no practical differences.
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pwal
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/21 13:16:53
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ideally, an update, free or otherwise, shouldn't break things; a beta test period gives an opportunity to identify the more obscure stuff; a public beta is good because the range of system combinations is far wider than a private test
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John T
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/21 13:29:26
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Yes, I get the idea. How about this. Everyone who wants a public beta, but wouldn't want to risk being a tester in one can just not download it until enough other people say it's working okay.
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pwal
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/21 13:46:33
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they do something similar @ ableton, though the beta releases are clearly separated from the "stable" builds (own forum, etc) - but it would be up to cake to say what was stable and what was beta, rather than the users; then as the last bugs etc are removed from the beta, it eventually becomes the stable/release version; expectations are managed
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/21 13:53:58
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/21 14:05:17
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Bub There's a lot riding on X1C. Only time will tell.
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mrberrie
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/21 14:07:05
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You can always choose to NOT load and wait to see how others are doing with it. Me, I'll load it on my test box first then after running it in my test environment and checking out this forum to get other Users feedback, I will eventually load X1c on the "real" Music Box.
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Re:Should there be an X1c Beta Release first?
2011/07/21 15:39:45
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I still love X1b, (maybe just because I can fly it closed eyes?), but having recently invested in another set of Professional audio Tools, (the one where the multi-track beat quantization actually WORKS on audio), "C will have to be a real sweety to keep me from crossing to the other side on a more permanent basis.
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