batsbrew
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Sidechain Compression
i need a basic tutorial,
based on using 'common' compressors available,
such as sonitus, or waves C1, etc.......
i'm looking for:
1. kick sidechained to bass guitar
2. vox sidechained to rhythm guitars
3. vocal fx sidechained to.......... what?
thanks in advance
p.s. i've always been a bit of a 'purist' in my mixing,
sticking to basics, very simple scenarios, with as little fx used as possible.
not many tricks, just straight up mixing, with some basic buss FX, a few individual channel inserts.......
i'm looking to expand my bag of tricks.
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/02 14:08:56
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batsbrew
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/02 14:54:54
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i watched that one...
i could not figure out anything he was doing.
without a narrative and explanation, it does me no good.
i see that a compressor is used, but i don't know where it is placed, and how the kick is routed to it to trigger the bass track.
kick gets send.....
to compressor, which is.... where? i'm on 6PE, don't have the same layout....
etc....
i see two compressors, 1st the sonitus, then it goes away, i see a 2nd compressor, i understand the tweaks, but cannot figure out the routing
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/02 17:54:16
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batsbrew
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/02 18:10:20
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scook
Does this help https://www.cakewalk.com/.../Sidechaining-in-SONAR with routing?
no. LOL i get this: Server Error in '/' Application.
Runtime ErrorDescription: An exception occurred while processing your request. Additionally, another exception occurred while executing the custom error page for the first exception. The request has been terminated.
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Re: Sidechain Compression
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/02 18:35:42
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/02 18:37:56
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gustabo
LOL! The forum host can't hyperlink...
Here you go
thanks
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batsbrew
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/02 20:16:26
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i get the distinct impression that no one here does what i'm asking about...
the example gives me some ideas,
but does not walk me thru the scenarios i'm most interested in.
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/03 10:15:01
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☄ Helpfulby batsbrew 2014/12/03 14:04:18
I've done the kick/bass sidechain method previously, when I needed to, but I don't do it anymore. I still use sidechain signals all the time for other uses.
Basically, you put the compressor that has a sidechain input on the bass, then add a new Send on the Kick pointed to that sidechain input. The input should show in the list of available send targets. At least, it does in Sonar X3e. I always set the send to PRE so the level doesn't change as I mix, and adjust the send level so that the sidechain input signal is not too strong. After that, you adjust the compressor to respond to the sidechain signal and have the compressor do what you want.
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/03 12:32:32
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thanks dan.... so, to make sure i understand.... - in this scenario, i want to duck the bass when the kick is happening during certain vocal passes.
- the comp is placed in the channel of the track you want to 'duck', or reduce level....(in this case, the bass track)
- and the send is from the track you want to be the 'trigger' (in this case, the drum track)
- then adjust the comp for the sensitivity needed to do the needed task...(in this case, fast attack, fast release)
- i assume that you can automate the 'send' so i can have the ducking effect come and go at will?
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/03 13:09:20
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☄ Helpfulby batsbrew 2014/12/03 14:04:27
Bat,
that all is correct, including the send idea (although I haven't tried that, it should work). I wonder if you just couldn't duck the bass from a vocal send? All the other sidechains you want follow the same steps.
Let us know if that don't fix you up.
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/03 13:16:07
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batsbrew
thanks dan....
so, to make sure i understand....
- in this scenario, i want to duck the bass when the kick is happening during certain vocal passes.
- the comp is placed in the channel of the track you want to 'duck', or reduce level....(in this case, the bass track)
- and the send is from the track you want to be the 'trigger' (in this case, the drum track)
- then adjust the comp for the sensitivity needed to do the needed task...(in this case, fast attack, fast release)
- i assume that you can automate the 'send' so i can have the ducking effect come and go at will?
Yes. Absolutely correct. Dan
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/03 14:13:27
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cool, i'm off to the races
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/12 18:02:05
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Re: Sidechain Compression
2014/12/12 18:15:18
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thanks craig!
i'm into full bore experiment mode now!
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