Sidechain limiter

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Cakewalk has never released a limiter than can be side chained in any of their products (or even as a standalone plugin)?

Thanks
 
Alex

Oh right CA2A has a limiting mode I'll check, but to be honest it doesn't have enough flashing lights like the Pro Channel concrete limiter which I've grown to love (for all it's flaws)... Cake are you there, bung a sidechain into this! :) Please !!! (OK out with enhancement request).

Good to know, I'm using CA2A as a sidechain all the time, although I'm finding the sidechain detection is a hit and miss affair when paired with the output from a track, but once it gets working it's fine (one of these days I'll log a bug). So I just put in a enhancement request for Pro Channel Concrete limiter. I looked at the Nomad bundle with Pro X3 as well, no dice...

Sidroe
CA2A definitely does not work well as a limiter. I have tried it many times and it just falls short. There is always a random peak that sneaks through. I love it as a compressor but pretty useless as a limiter for me. The sidechain works well though.

These types of  comps modeled after the hardware aren't intended for brickwall/ ISP limiting.
I don't know if this or any other vendors offer oversampling in their models either.

All true.  I was just answering the question LOL.

He didn't say "Does Cake have an EXCELLENT Side Chain-able Limiter.
He just asked if they had one...LOL

I'm well aware of the extreme limitations of the the CA-2A as a Limiter,
hence the reason I've never used it for that purpose.

It seems to me the whole idea of side-chaining a limiter is problematic. If the material and levels aren't perfect, you could easily get very bad results - i.e. clipping-like distortion. If it were me, I think I would side-chain a compressor with a high ratio and threshold, and put a limiter after it to catch any remaining peaks.

CakeAlexS
Mainly for effects I'm thinking... :)

Then use the Sonitus...so what if it's DirectX? It works!

Couple of questions.
 
I've never come across a "Side Chain Limiter".  What would someone use one for?  How would it work?
 
Secondly, the Ca-2a is definitely not a limiter.  It has a "Limit" mode, but I guess this is to echo the limit mode on the emulated hardware.  It does not work as the modern understanding of a limiter would.
 
Thirdly, what is wrong with the Sonitus? It may not be VST, but neither is an original Teletronix La2a or a Pultec EQP-1A Program Equalizer.  If they work well, why does it matter if they're "Legacy"?
 
My main point is still, why/how would one use a sidechain limiter?  Please excuse my ignorance.

My bad, sorry.

dubdisciple
I was kind of curious as to why someone would want to sidechain a limiter. Also, since any compressor that can set a ration of 10:1 or more can be a limiter, that opens up a lot more yeses.

As an effect, apparently.

I just want to create weird noises, reverbs and what have you. Mainly though I want to flexibility to experiment, for instance if somebody says you shouldn't do that, then I'm on it :) From memory I don't think I've ever sidechained a limiter before...it's basically curiosity and intrigue to see what I can do here, sure there will be other ways of doing things... Of course it may not be suitable, in which case that will be put down to an "interesting experiment".... but if it's a stupid and pointless way to do something then I'm a total convert...  I just want to do it because I ... can, that's always been good for the creative process.... Anyways all good stuff on this thread... thanks..