Sidechain w midi kick - some kicks disappear after a while??

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2013/12/02 12:27:25 (permalink)

Sidechain w midi kick - some kicks disappear after a while??

Hey
 
I posted this in wrong thread (8.5) so perhaps I have better luck here...
 
I have started a new project, where I inserted a Roland Groovesynth with a MG1 blip as a kick (midi) on a 4/4). I want to use the midi kick as a Sidechain for other tracks and buses. It start out good, but after a while some of my kicks disappear, let's say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, - -, 10, 11, - etc. very irregular. I don't understand this behavior. There seem to be no reason for it. 
 
If only running the "Sidechain kick track" it seem ok, I can play the kick nice and solid. However, after sending or routing the signal to another buses or tracks the behavior above happens.
 
I have tried different VSTi and both internal compressors and several 3 party (Waves, PSP, Alloy2, The glue, etc)
Any ideas?
I am running Sonar X3c Producer, windows 8.1, 64 bit. All drivers are up to date.

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    dubdisciple
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    Re: Sidechain w midi kick - some kicks disappear after a while?? 2013/12/02 12:31:59 (permalink)
    The only time this has happened to me, the solution was tinkering with the threshold, attack and release
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    Re: Sidechain w midi kick - some kicks disappear after a while?? 2013/12/02 12:38:35 (permalink)
    Try increasing your Prepare Using buffer for MIDI to 500ms in Preferences. The new default of 250 is too low for some systems, and can result in dropped MIDI notes - whether driving a sidechain or not.

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    Re: Sidechain w midi kick - some kicks disappear after a while?? 2013/12/02 12:48:47 (permalink)
    If increasing the buffers does not fix the problem, try freezing the synth as a workaround.
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    Re: Sidechain w midi kick - some kicks disappear after a while?? 2013/12/02 13:47:40 (permalink)
    Ok, will try this...
     
    However, I got a brand new DAW with i7 3770K Processor 3.5 Ghz, 16 Mb RAM and SSD. shouldn't this be enough?

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    Re: Sidechain w midi kick - some kicks disappear after a while?? 2013/12/02 13:50:35 (permalink)
    In this case size does not matter. For many, including those with really powerful machines, the buffer is just too small.
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    Re: Sidechain w midi kick - some kicks disappear after a while?? 2013/12/02 14:03:05 (permalink)
    Oh, I got it wrong, I though size always matters;) hehe
     
    I will check it out, thanx again guys.

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    Re: Sidechain w midi kick - some kicks disappear after a while?? 2013/12/02 15:07:32 (permalink)
    Seem to do the trick:) For now anyway. Thanks guys!
     

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