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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/13 14:04:24
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I get this message pretty frequently, but there is never anything wrong. In my case, it is not usually referring to the Master, however. I usually set up three or four audio tracks to capture output of external synths. (For arranging, I may have multiple instruments from a synth going to a stereo output. Later, I will record the audio of each instrument to a separate track by cloning that audio track and muting all but one instrument at a time.)
Even though the message says one or more of these audio tracks is silent, everything works anyway.
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/13 14:46:56
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
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Check if your Master bus has any sends assigned to "None" since that would also trigger this.
There is a Cakewalk.ini flag that can be used to suppress this warning. Go into Preferences | Initialization file, add a variable called WarnSilentBuses and set it to 0.
If you can't find the source of the silent bus upload a project and I can look at it.
BTW - this solution worked like a charm. Thanks Noel!
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/13 18:11:02
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+1 here on the message quite frequently if not always. I ignore it if only one (usually master) but if there are several it's because I didn't boot my controller first. Someone might tell Sonar?
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/14 13:20:12
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I saw your video. Its not a bug. You are assigning a send to NONE. That is why the warning is being triggered. The warning is just telling you that you have an output (sends are considered outputs) going to a silent bus (none is silent).
The reason we do this for sends as well is that you might have a project that sent to a hardware out directly, and then you loaded that project back on a different hardware config. Since the hardware is not present the send would be assigned to NONE and thereby be silent. Without this warning you wouldn't easily know why your mix is sounding different.
Anyway if you don't want this behavior disable it via the ini setting..
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/14 13:51:03
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"Noel Borthwick"
I saw your video. Its not a bug. You are assigning a send to NONE. That is why the warning is being triggered. The warning is just telling you that you have an output (sends are considered outputs) going to a silent bus (none is silent). Thanks for the very quick reply Noel. I didn't say this was a bug though, but rather that I could generate the error message at will. Your explanations makes sense but in the context of creating a send (as I have in the video) and then realizing for whatever reason that I did not want to do this..., how do I cancel the send if setting it back to none doesn't do it? I would rather not use the "ini setting" you have mentioned and preserve the intended behavior, but then I need to know what I'm doing wrong in this case. Thanks again for your prompt replies. 
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/14 13:57:48
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Select "delete send" from the drop down.
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/14 13:59:17
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Correct. If you really don't need the send anymore just delete it. Assigning a send to NONE is still doing some work unnecessarily in this case.
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/14 14:06:06
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how do I cancel the send if setting it back to none doesn't do it?
Click in the Send assign box (the send box that has a dropdown arrow on it, so you can assign what output you want to assign for the Send,) and select "Delete Send." EDIT: Wow I'm slow. y'all beat me to it. :)
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/14 14:37:20
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Oh boy, what a klutz.  Can you believe that I never noticed the "Delete Send" option at the bottom of the pull-down menu (from the Inspector module). Ouch. There goes my "dimbulb" moment of the week. Thanks to all who have "enlighten" me. 
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/14 16:11:23
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YES SIR!!! I got it! Thank's to all of you who speak about their problems...I had this message but like some of you, I ignore it because it was't making a difference in the sound. But, it was there and it was bothering me.
This was happening because when I first start that project, I was experimenting with the monitering (sound in the cans) of the drum set so I have put all the drums and pad (10 audio tracks) in a bus that was going in an output different than the master bus. But after, when I start to mix, I puted the drum in the master bus but Ididn't delete the thing.
OH man! This is as good as going for a#2...I'm so glad!!!
Thank you so much!!!
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/14 17:00:52
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^^^ I withdraw all of my contributions at this point.
:)
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/15 12:18:00
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Sometimes I have actually wanted to send a bus to an unconnected output. Don't ask why!
In Sonar 7 or 8, you could disable that silent bus warning in the .INI file. Now it appears you can't disable it. Does anyone know how to disable it in X1?
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/15 13:08:30
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/15 13:26:39
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My DAW is new, I'm in the process of configuring it. My RME unit is a few weeks old but was running on my old DAW fine. Yes up to date on patches (a, b) except for the QuickFix. I've looked pretty hard for busses and all I can find are Master, Metronome and Preview. Metronome and Preview are assigned to Master. I have tried reassigning Master and it doesn't seem to have any effect. As I said originally this really is a test project to work through issues with my system so the project is exceedingly simple and straight forward. Also how come I can hear something that is silent? I'm not having any trouble monitoring...in fact everything sounds fantastic. I believe this happens when the audio interface is new/different than what was used to create the original project.
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/15 13:38:29
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Saxon1066
Sometimes I have actually wanted to send a bus to an unconnected output. Don't ask why!
In Sonar 7 or 8, you could disable that silent bus warning in the .INI file. Now it appears you can't disable it. Does anyone know how to disable it in X1?
You most certainly can. I have a drum split buss that outputs to none in all my projects and never see the warning. Go to Preferences->File->Initialisation File and create the Option WarnSilentBuses and set it to 0
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/15 17:30:33
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I believe this happens when the audio interface is new/different than what was used to create the original project Hey Jim, Nope the RME was used on both laptop and my absolutely fantastic absolutely screaming Studiocat DAW. Not sure what actually causes this. It happens occasionally on new projects also. Been following this thread to see if I can solve it. So far the INI setting seems to work. Hope your doing well and I absolutely love my DAW. Regards
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/15 18:01:56
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
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Check if your Master bus has any sends assigned to "None" since that would also trigger this.
There is a Cakewalk.ini flag that can be used to suppress this warning. Go into Preferences | Initialization file, add a variable called WarnSilentBuses and set it to 0.
If you can't find the source of the silent bus upload a project and I can look at it.
Thanks Noel, that worked great. Please come back and share more of your undocumented goodies with us. My mouth waters at what parameters can be exposed through the initialization. P.S. So nice to be able to open that project without the funky warning. My ears can pick up when a bus is silent, thank you. :D
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/16 07:47:02
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Guitarpima
I got this warning a few times. It happened when switching sample rates for different projects. I would switch the sample rate for the AI and would restart Sonar. The only problem was, I forgot to power off then power on the AI before I restarted Sonar.
This is when I have experienced it too......
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Re:Silent Busses Detected
2012/02/16 07:48:09
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
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Check if your Master bus has any sends assigned to "None" since that would also trigger this.
There is a Cakewalk.ini flag that can be used to suppress this warning. Go into Preferences | Initialization file, add a variable called WarnSilentBuses and set it to 0.
If you can't find the source of the silent bus upload a project and I can look at it.
Thanks Noel, that worked great. Please come back and share more of your undocumented goodies with us. My mouth waters at what parameters can be exposed through the initialization.
P.S. So nice to be able to open that project without the funky warning. My ears can pick up when a bus is silent, thank you. :D
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