Slurs?

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2012/10/25 11:23:27 (permalink)

Slurs?

Using SONAR X2 Producer. Are slurs supported? Are they called something else? How do you place them on the staff?
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    robert_e_bone
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    Re:Slurs? 2012/10/25 14:21:45 (permalink)
    Here is another forum thread with a bunch of notes on approximating slurs in Sonar:

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1179745

    Might generate something that would work for you.

    I have to visit this myself for a song I am recording, where today or tomorrow I have to record a midi slur for the bass track.  It's one of those gotta have it things, so I too will be working on accomplishing this.

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    Re:Slurs? 2012/10/25 15:18:41 (permalink)
    A slur, which is usually used to refer to the effect on a brass instrument, is different than a glissando, or a portamento, or even a pitch bend. Brass instruments are more or less "quantized" in that musical tone is reinforced only at multiples of the resonant length of the tube. So a realistic slur is actually not a "smooth" transition from one note to another, but an asymmetric slide from one resonant condition to the next. Although you can indicate a slur in notation, the notation does not produce the slur, the player does. A slur is also not a particularly musical adornment, it is more like a brass players kludge. Unless you are trying to simulate a brass instrument, a more symmetric transition may be desirable, and where control over the "shape" of the transition, pitch bend may be the most flexible control. But as in the real world, simply writing notation to indicate the slur, will not create a controlled slur. The most flexible control may be with a physical controller on a particular synth.
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    Re:Slurs? 2012/10/25 16:17:14 (permalink)
    In short, you cannot put slurs on the staff in Sonar. You need a notation program like Finale PrintMusic or others that have that capability. 

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    Re:Slurs? 2012/10/25 16:35:52 (permalink)
    And besides the staff, you can only add one to a midi note event by adding either a portamento (glide)or by adding a pitch bend with a range wide enough to cover what you wanted to do with the slide.

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    Re:Slurs? 2012/10/25 17:08:29 (permalink)
    If your intent is to have slurs displayed on your score printouts, that cannot be done from the Sonar Staff View - this would be something cosmetic which would have to be added using a notation program.
     
    You may see ties (like slurs, but between notes of the same pitch), but these are produced by Sonar depending on settings in the Staff View, so they are not really user controllable.
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    Re:Slurs? 2012/10/25 17:44:08 (permalink)
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    In short, you cannot put slurs on the staff in Sonar. You need a notation program like Finale PrintMusic or others that have that capability. 

    Like MuseScore, which is free.  I haven't spent a lot of time with it yet, but it seems to do everything that PrintMusic does, and then some.  I was annoyed to learn that PrintMusic won't let you place a clef change in the middle of a measure.  MuseScore will.

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    Re:Slurs? 2012/10/27 12:38:00 (permalink)
    you would probably need to use a legato patch in the synth that you're using. gpo has an auto legato feature that works well most of the time, and you can manually enter them with sustain cc events.  writing slurs for violin would typically consist of overlapping notes slightly with a legato patch running. 

     
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