Snap does not work properly and Cakewalk needs to fix this ASAP (and other MIDI BS)

I tell you what, I'm not one for normally expressing my frustration on here, but I am sick to bloody death of the snap to grid not working as it should. 

Example, I have a MIDI clip that I'm moving around. Snap is set to 1/4 notes and snap TO (not snap BY). Magnetic strength set to extreme. When I move it around I look at the start time in the clip inspector. For a while it shows that every move is snapped to an exact beat. But every now and then it will just offset the clip by a small number, e.g. 16 ticks, and every move I make is then offset from the beat by 16 ticks. If I jiggle it back and forward then it eventually gets back to the 0 tick divisions. But it means that every time I have a lot of clip moving to do, my work flow is severely hampered by the amount of jiggling and checking I have to do with clip start times. 

CAKEWALK, DAMMIT THIS SHOULD JUST WORK AS ADVERTISED. 

Problems with hardware compatibility/instability are one thing. But this is about as basic as it gets in a DAW. This is as basic as inserting an appointment on a calendar at a set time. When I create an appointment in Outlook at 4pm and move it around the screen, does it land on 3:02pm, 2:02pm, 1:02pm etc? No! And if it did, I would damn well be asking Microsoft for my money back. 

And while I'm on, let's talk about MIDI timing. Why should instruments start drifting out of time when I'm looping a section? Doesn't always happen, granted, but it happens a lot, and others have mentioned it too. Again, this is fundamental DAW stuff. 

Cakewalk, you need to stop treating Sonar as  a marketing vehicle - stop piling on shiny new bells and whistles that look good in a 1 minute YouTube promo - and start FIXING the BASIC DAW FUNCTIONALITY for chrissakes. 

I've just checked it out, and in my case the clip I drag and drop almost always goes to the 0 position. But yes, once in a while it ends up in :064. I don't know why.

But I was more disturbed by a different problem. Sometimes, when I drop the clip, it ends up in a completely different track 

Saw this too.  And on earlier SONAR verisons also.  

Its become part of my routine to shuffle the clip with the mouse in order to confirm it has snapped to correct position.  But yes, shouldn't have to do this at all.  ;<

  Not sure if this is the problem but there is a setting "that I think is new" that is something like Last Note Touched or something. It's caused me quite a bit of frustration as well because it gets activated randomly sometimes. I'll go poke at the manual to find the page number it's described on. 

I wondered what you were going on about there Beep.


Nothing to see here.

move along now.

Hey Sharke....I don't know if this would have anything to do with your problem...but...from looking at your image you posted, it shows your clip length as 8:944 .

With your resolution set to 960, your clip length is exactly 16 ticks from 960.

Looks like this could somehow be affecting where your clip lands.

I know this probably doesn't help...but it might give you something to look in to.

Hi Folks,

There are 2 hit points for snapping, snap to the start of clip and snap at the end of clip. Grabbing the first half of the clip will snap the beginning of the clip to the grid, the last half of the clip snaps the end boundary. Aim assist will be the guide as to how the clip is being snapped. Judging from the image posted here, it looks like the clip was snapped at the end of the clip.  If this is not the case, I would be happy to work with anyone who is willing to help us figure out what is causing unexpected snap issues.

The MIDI loop issue is known and we hope to address it in a future update. In the meantime, enabling the metronome should solve this problem for you. For example: sending the metronome to a muted bus is solving the problem in house. 

Hope this helps!
Daniel [Cakewalk]

Dan Cate [Cakewalk
]

The MIDI loop issue is known and we hope to address it in a future update. In the meantime, enabling the metronome should solve this problem for you. For example: sending the metronome to a muted bus is solving the problem in house. 

Ah, right then, thanks for that. I'l give that a whirl.

Dan Cate [Cakewalk
]

the last half of the clip snaps the end boundary. [Cakewalk]

Hi Dan,
Is there any way I can disable this feature?