So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking

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2018/09/19 20:36:24 (permalink)

So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking

Do not think I can handle all this jumping thru hoops bs. Yes, I klnow, what hoops? well, cvannot get my router correct and a bunch of other crap. 
I wanted to stick with win8.1x64 but comments on this and other forums convinced me to upgrade.
You know, everyone says well with group policy and win pro you can tame it.
 
That is probably true except I have been out of the tech scene for 10 years or so and do not remember much....I'm an old guy-hah!
 
I give it one more day but I am not real optimistic. Haven't activated or bought a key yet. That may be part of it. But I really do not waNT TO WASTE $199.......oK, THAT'S MY WIN 10 pRO RANT.

 
 
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    abacab
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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/20 16:50:29 (permalink)
    The following tips should get you firmly planted in the driver's seat again... 
     
    2 ways to control Windows 10 automatic updates
    https://www.pcworld.com/article/3085136/windows/two-ways-to-control-or-stop-windows-10-updates.html
     
    How to Fix All of Windows 10’s Annoyances
    https://www.howtogeek.com/356642/how-to-fix-all-windows-10%E2%80%99s-annoyances/
     
    Windows 10 Privacy Settings
    https://privacyamp.com/knowledge-base/windows-10-privacy-settings/
     
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    https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-enable-or-disable-hibernate-in-windows-10/

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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/20 23:48:17 (permalink)
    Appreciate the links. But I* have now been struggling with my Kontakt 5 dvds. No option to run or play in windows 10 Pro? Seriously? My options are open, set storage something (nothing to do with a dvd) and take no action?
     
    So I cannoit install Kontakt. I have images iso's and they won't work using windows or alcohol 120%. I have the physical discs. They just load, show 5.xx GB's in properties. But NO option to play or run? Oh, open autoplay? well not all dvds have an autoplay script.
     
    Also I CANNOT use the service app or access app because the downloads are giganti

     
     
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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/21 00:44:39 (permalink)
    stratman70
    Appreciate the links. But I* have now been struggling with my Kontakt 5 dvds. No option to run or play in windows 10 Pro? Seriously? My options are open, set storage something (nothing to do with a dvd) and take no action?
     
    So I cannoit install Kontakt. I have images iso's and they won't work using windows or alcohol 120%. I have the physical discs. They just load, show 5.xx GB's in properties. But NO option to play or run? Oh, open autoplay? well not all dvds have an autoplay script.
     
    Also I CANNOT use the service app or access app because the downloads are giganti




    I would probably recommend contacting Native Instruments support regarding the Kontakt installers for Win 10.  They have surely had to deal with this issue before. 

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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/21 00:59:36 (permalink)
    Thanks-I think I may have caused it, even though it's BS that it happens. I installed Kontakt 5 thru native access app. I think if I used the kontakt 5 disc it would have prompted me to please insert Disk a, etc, etc. But still, it's ridiculous. 
     
    Thanks for help

     
     
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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/21 03:46:50 (permalink)
    So I played my guitar and downloaded all the Kontakt libraries which was many. Took a long time but playing guitar while I did it made it easy.
     
    Still not crazy about Win 10 Pro. But I will get it, I am now determinbed.

     
     
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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/21 12:47:02 (permalink)
    Win10 is just a transition...
    It's absolutely fine once you have it "reined-in".
     
    If you want the possibility to run a Thunderbolt audio interface (for super lower round-trip latency), you have to run Win10.
     
    Have installed many instances of Kontakt and Kontakt libraries in Win10.
     
    You just need to get thru the adjustment period.  

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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/21 14:51:43 (permalink)
    Right now I have to put my trusty Echo Layla 3G o0n a shelf and use my "never used" Octa-capture. 
    I really liked the Echo, it was fine for me but just couldn't get a motherboard that I was happy with that had an old PCI slot.
    The Asus Prime Z370 A MB has a place for thunderbolt addition. I'll just have to see how I get along with the Octa-capture
     
    Thanks Jim

     
     
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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/21 14:57:39 (permalink)
    If the Octa-Capture doesn't offer low enough round-trip latency for you, the Presonus Quantum or Quantum-2 (smaller version) are both incredible performers.
    1ms total round-trip latency at a 32-sample ASIO buffer size/96k.
     
    You'd need to add the Thunderbolt EX3 card... and get a Thunderbolt-3 to Thunderbolt-2 adapter.
    Presonus recommend the StarTech adapter... but the less expensive Apple adapter works great.

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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/21 17:52:33 (permalink)
    stratman70
    Right now I have to put my trusty Echo Layla 3G o0n a shelf and use my "never used" Octa-capture. 
    I really liked the Echo, it was fine for me but just couldn't get a motherboard that I was happy with that had an old PCI slot.

    This may be of interest http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3778313
     
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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/21 18:40:06 (permalink)
    Deleted.   I posted on another forum section and my post appeared here. 
     
    post edited by fireberd - 2018/09/21 23:28:24

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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/22 16:24:31 (permalink)
    @Jim R.
    I use a mixer to monitor so latency is never an issue for me, AxeFX direct for guitars. everything else is midi except vocals of course. I bookmarked the -capture, I bought it but really never used it more than a couple hours.
    My MB does have TB3 support with a card. Asus Z370 Prime A....Thanks
    @Scook
    Thanks for the link. I did, about a year ago, talk to echo tech and they said under no circumstances would the echo layla 3G work with any adapters? That's weird. But obviously it does.

     
     
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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/24 02:47:27 (permalink)
    So, as I mentioned in another post, the Octacapture seems like it will be OK for me. Just have to learn a new device all over again....jeeezzz! Oh well!

     
     
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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/24 14:04:58 (permalink)
    If you're monitoring via hardware, the OctaCapture will be just fine.
     
    IIRC, round-trip latency is ~7.4ms at a 48-sample ASIO buffer size (44.1k).

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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/24 16:32:00 (permalink)
    Hey Jim
    Yes I am monitoring via hardware. I have done that for a very long time. 
    But I am in a home studio, only me. All vocals are me. All guitars, electric and acoustic, are me.
    Keys, Bass and drums are created in various way. Using softsynths! 
     
    Really need to learn\understand the Octa Capture because I am having issues. The hour or 2 I used it for years ago was fairly starightforward. That was windows 7 or 8. Now with win 10 Pro I seem to be lost. 
    I have searched for tutorials but most I have found just describe the many features. Seems most use the "mixer" aspect of the octacapture, and I do NOT want to do that.
    I'll keep on it
     
    Thanks for your input Jim
    Frank (Stratman70

     
     
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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/24 17:37:15 (permalink)
    I had an Octa-Capture.  Used it in Win 7 then 8 and finally Win 10.  Worked the same in each OS. ??
     

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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/24 20:35:30 (permalink)
    Hey Fireberd
     
    I am sure you r correct. I am really starting over with it, as I stated. All seems new to me. Not really getting it so far. 

     
     
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    Re: So Far Win 10 Pro is nerve racking 2018/09/24 20:39:11 (permalink)
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    Right now I have to put my trusty Echo Layla 3G o0n a shelf and use my "never used" Octa-capture. 
    I really liked the Echo, it was fine for me but just couldn't get a motherboard that I was happy with that had an old PCI slot.

    This may be of interest http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3778313



    Thanks as always Scook. Even though I am messing with the Octacapture I just ordered the same exact adapter to give it a shot. I have plenty of PCI-E slots open. Card was $38 total. Worth a try to use something I am very use to and happy with.

     
     
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