rodreb
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So, am I understanding this correctly?
If I understand this correctly, my current Sonar Platinum is what it is. It will never be updated or supported again. The only thing that will now enjoy updates and support will be the new Cakewalk by BandLab. Is that correct?
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kday
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/08 01:57:16
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I believe the new BandLab Cakewalk programs would be compatible with you old Sonar version. I also believe they've said the new Cakewalk program will eventually develop into a better version of what you current have, sometime in the future.
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/08 02:21:22
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rodreb
If I understand this correctly, my current Sonar Platinum is what it is. It will never be updated or supported again. The only thing that will now enjoy updates and support will be the new Cakewalk by BandLab. Is that correct?
Yes.
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rodreb
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/08 07:12:43
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So, if the BandLab Cakewalk is an inferior version of Platinum (which we paid for) then, why would anybody even want to stay and support this.
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/08 08:08:47
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/08 08:29:45
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Inferior is probably the wrong term. The initial BandLab release is a core version which will incorporate your current version's extras when you install it alongside your existing installation.
The benefit is that unlike Sonar, the new program will receive updates and new features.
Sonar Platinum - BandLab Cakewalk - Presonus 16.0.2 - Tannoys - Lava BandLamp ?
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/08 09:40:47
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It`s still early days, you'll have to wait until all the database migration has taken place. I honestly believe from what I seen of BandLab so far if you were a lifetime SPAT user it will all be made available to you, basically whatever you have purchased in your old Cakewalk account will be ported over to your new one, it may a take a few months, just make sure your BandLab account email is the very same one as used in your old Cakewalk account. Patience is the key :-)
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/08 09:45:42
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Bristol_Jonesey
Inferior? In what way?
they removed the embedded 3rd party licensed stuff like pow-r dithering, for example
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rodreb
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/08 10:19:53
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Maybe inferior is too strong but, anytime they take away stuff you used to have, that's a lesser product. Oh, and, yes, I was a lifetime subscriber of Platinum and a Sonar user since version 1.
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/08 10:28:05
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rodreb
Maybe inferior is too strong but, anytime they take away stuff you used to have, that's a lesser product. Oh, and, yes, I was a lifetime subscriber of Platinum and a Sonar user since version 1.
All the stuff you used to have, you still do, except a dither option that is coming back. Only newcomers have a stripped back system.
post edited by Kamikaze - 2018/04/08 11:15:30
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pwalpwal
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/08 10:37:16
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someone asked about the izotope radius time-streching stuff, but i don't think we got an answer to that...
oh, i know! how about just a list of all this stuff from bandlab, rather then the whole "guess what..." **** that's going on at the moment?
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/08 11:04:09
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Cakewalk by Bandlab is Sonar Platinum rebranded. The version available now is a pre-release. It is likely that it will not include most of the 3rd party plugins that Splat used to have going forward, but if you already had Splat, you will keep your 3rd party plugins. The core software is now free, so essentially all of us who bought into the lifetime free updates continue to get what was Splat but is now called Cakewalk for free, but so does everyone else. It seems likely that the monthly updates will continue and that development will probably improve now without the constraints that were there before. As it is now free, it is likely to become the most popular DAW and therefore the most supported. There doesn't seem to be too much to be negative about at the moment - Cakewalk lives.
Splat, Win 10 64bit and all sorts of musical odds and sods collected over the years, but still missing a lot of my old analogue stuff I sold off years ago.
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/08 12:25:23
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pwalpwal
Bristol_Jonesey
Inferior? In what way?
they removed the embedded 3rd party licensed stuff like pow-r dithering, for example
Ok, that's one (and with a very good reason) - anything else?
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/08 14:33:58
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Bristol_Jonesey
Inferior? In what way?
they removed the embedded 3rd party licensed stuff like pow-r dithering, for example
Ok, that's one (and with a very good reason) - anything else?
drum replacer, boz prochannel modules I guess, and I wish somebody checked if the izotope radius mix algo for pitch/strech audio is there or not... please :D (I'm on 32bit windows, can't check it byself)
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rodreb
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/09 00:42:02
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What? Drum replacer is not there?? Bummer!
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Kamikaze
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/09 00:56:57
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Did you have Drum Replacer before, if so, then it's there. That's my understanding.
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/09 01:08:39
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I understand the situation with 3rd party stuff that had dependencies on legal agreements that are no longer valid because they are with a company that no longer exists. That has minimal impact on legacy users who still have the .dll's and artifacts for those 3rd party products.
However, I had failed realize/recognize that there was also 3rd party IP that had been compiled into the SONAR executables that would need to be backed out (like pow-r dithering and iZotope time stretch).
A list of all of those missing pieces would be very helpful when deciding whether to move forward with the new BandLab/Cakewalk version.
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/09 03:40:14
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Drum replacer and Melodyn are still there,, I used them today.
I see no difference at all. Nothing has been taken away in my world and I think this is the best version for a long time. NO CRASHES!! yeh!
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Re: So, am I understanding this correctly?
2018/04/09 03:51:02
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☄ Helpfulby Anderton 2018/04/09 04:03:44
rodreb
Maybe inferior is too strong but, anytime they take away stuff you used to have, that's a lesser product. Oh, and, yes, I was a lifetime subscriber of Platinum and a Sonar user since version 1.
The only thing I know is missing from the DAW are the pow-r algorithms and that probably is not a permanent situation see http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3746538 What BandLab did was port the contents of two installers (SONAR Platinum and Artist Instrument Collection) to create a fully functional DAW that they could give out for free to everyone not just existing SONAR users. All the rest like Drum Replacer, Adaptive Limter, etc. will follow but was not a priority because those who have the plug-ins still have them and can use them in CbB.
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