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So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule

I never really thought I'd get big on a algorithmic reverb given that we have convolution verbs now. I mean it is real reverb, how can you be better than real? All the convolution verbs, even cheap ones, did a better job than algo verbs. However not Breverb. It just sounds amazingly good. Particularly on drums I just love the thing I am amazed how good it sounds. It has really become what I prefer.
 
If they ever do another upgrade deal to the full version, you should really take a look at getting the full deal. The "spaces" mode it has is just amazing.
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    jb101
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/10 18:00:13 (permalink)
    I like it a lot.  Quite a few people here are "down on it", but I have always found I useful.  I love being able to have it in ProChannel as well, and find it quite light on resources, so it's good for tracking too..
     
    Its probably my most used reverb, followed by Perfect Space and Reverberate.  I will also be trying out the Nomad Factory BlueVerb, when I get a chance.

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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/10 18:11:10 (permalink)
    Same here, I really like it. Works well on vox for me too.
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/10 19:35:41 (permalink)
    Yep , I just tried out the "Blue Verb", and to me it sounded quite bad - tried a bunch of presets and tweaking away, but couldn't get results to my liking at all.
     
    Dropped in Breverb instead and woo hoo, happy sounds in no time at all.
     
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/10 19:50:25 (permalink)
    Yeah, I gotta admit, I'm liking what I'm hearing with Breverb also. Before I upgraded to X3, I was using X1e, and my go to verb was Softube TSAR-1R from the Mix Bundle Pro Channel Edition. I'm thinking I'm gonna have a hard time choosing between the two from now on! :)
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/10 20:34:46 (permalink)
    I've been slow to adopt the Blue Verb too. Each time I've tried to use it so far, I've ended up dropping it for something I'm more familiar with.
     
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/10 20:45:12 (permalink)
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    I like it a lot.  Quite a few people here are "down on it", but I have always found I useful.  I love being able to have it in ProChannel as well, and find it quite light on resources, so it's good for tracking too..
     

    +1 I like it a lot - and agree with you JB that it's nice to have it available in ProChannel.

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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/10 20:50:20 (permalink)
    I just tried BREVERB2 in the Pro Channel with the Addictive Drums demo ....Woah !!!! That really brought them to life !!! Awesome !!  :)
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/10 21:49:19 (permalink)
    The only problem with the Prochannel module is it only works on the included version, not the full one. The part of Breverb that really impresses me is the stuff you get when you upgrade. The "Spaces Large" setting is where I find the stuff I really like. I suppose no surprise the best stuff you have to buy the upgrade for :D. If they ever bring back an upgrade deal, give it real thought. I'm glad I got the full version, even though you have to use it as VST.
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/10 22:18:08 (permalink)
    Yeah, Breverb is really great. I have the Valhalla ones and others. I still value the full version of Breverb a lot. I'm very glad I have it and use it.

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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/10 23:12:40 (permalink)
    Breverb has been outstanding for the vocals on my stuff. Love it.

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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/10 23:22:15 (permalink)
    I really like it, yeah. There's a view that says convulsion reverbs replace these kind of digital reverbs. Me, I don't think anything ever replaces anything. I think the palette just gets broader. I wouldn't want to be without either type. Breverb doesn't sound "real" like convolution verbs do, but real isn't always what you're looking for.

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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/10 23:41:35 (permalink)
    I guess the full version must be way better than the lite version that is bundled with Sonar then, because when I've tried to find a useable verb for vocals it just sounds disgusting.  Keep going back to Sonitus verb for quick results, or a convolution verb for better results.

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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/11 00:21:12 (permalink)
    Good post to read.
     
    I bought the full bundle deal upgrade last year, which included 5 full version plugs from Overloud, but I haven't spent any real time with Breverb yet.
     
    Good to see such great results.  
     
    I'll have to load it up again and really go at it. 



     
     
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/11 00:46:41 (permalink)
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    The only problem with the Prochannel module is it only works on the included version, not the full one.



    I never upgraded Breverb, but very much like its performance. But I also like throwing it into the ProChannel so did not realize Sycraft's point. I may not have the best workflow, since most plugins I pop open only when tweaking them, and then close them to save real-estate, but in ProChannel I can monitor better.

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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/11 01:16:04 (permalink)
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    I guess the full version must be way better than the lite version that is bundled with Sonar then, because when I've tried to find a useable verb for vocals it just sounds disgusting.  Keep going back to Sonitus verb for quick results, or a convolution verb for better results.


    When you say "find a usable verb", do you mean looking through the presets? Because in that case, I'd agree, the presets are as bad as presets generally are. But if you set it flat and work from there, it's really fairly amazing.
     

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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/11 06:01:53 (permalink)
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    I guess the full version must be way better than the lite version that is bundled with Sonar then, because when I've tried to find a useable verb for vocals it just sounds disgusting.  Keep going back to Sonitus verb for quick results, or a convolution verb for better results.


    When you say "find a usable verb", do you mean looking through the presets? Because in that case, I'd agree, the presets are as bad as presets generally are. But if you set it flat and work from there, it's really fairly amazing.
     


    I will have to take a fresh look.  I've probably tried the presets to see if anything took my fancy and been so turned off that I wrote it off.  It never ceases to amaze me how bad presets end up representing products so poorly.

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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/11 11:41:58 (permalink)
    John T
    I really like it, yeah. There's a view that says convulsion reverbs replace these kind of digital reverbs. Me, I don't think anything ever replaces anything. I think the palette just gets broader. I wouldn't want to be without either type. Breverb doesn't sound "real" like convolution verbs do, but real isn't always what you're looking for.




    I feel that convolution has fallen out of fashion these days. Algortimic verbs that emulate or build on old digital machines (like Breverb, Relab, Valhalla Vintage Verb etc.) are all the rage. I'm happy with the algorithmic rennaisance as I never really got on with convolution!





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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/11 20:31:33 (permalink)
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    I really like it, yeah. There's a view that says convulsion reverbs replace these kind of digital reverbs. Me, I don't think anything ever replaces anything. I think the palette just gets broader. I wouldn't want to be without either type. Breverb doesn't sound "real" like convolution verbs do, but real isn't always what you're looking for.




    I feel that convolution has fallen out of fashion these days. Algortimic verbs that emulate or build on old digital machines (like Breverb, Relab, Valhalla Vintage Verb etc.) are all the rage. I'm happy with the algorithmic rennaisance as I never really got on with convolution!




     Like a lot of people I was blown away by convolution reverb at first.  I have since returned to the likes of Breverd, but still use convolution reverb when I want the sound of an instrument in a real space.
     
    More often now, though, I find that an algorithmic reverb will sit better in the mix.

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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/11 21:42:08 (permalink)
    I tend to use the convolution for things like making everything sound like it is in the same room, or making things sound like they are in a real space.  I use the algorithmic reverbs when I want it to sound like reverb.
     
    I am starting to really like Breverb.  I can't say the same for the Blue Tubes reverb, which is a shame because I like all the other effects in that series.
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/12 09:33:53 (permalink)
    Last night I received and installed XLN's Addictive Keys. There's another thread about that. The piano is great and has plenty of settings I have yet to learn about. But just playing the straight keys and adding Breverb (the full version) it was really nice to go through different piano reverb presets Breverb has. The two packages together just at their basic settings sound super nice.

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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/12 12:36:47 (permalink)
    Cool, I'll have to try that.   I just completed the AK download last night as well and went through the included pianos - they sound great and there's also a nice variety of affected presets (unexpected).
     

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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/12 12:54:02 (permalink)
    Been a convolution fan since the old Sonic Foundry Acoustic Mirror days. But I find that I'm liking the TSAR-1R and the Breverb a lot, and they don't hog the resources like the convos.
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/12 17:43:14 (permalink)
    Funny thing ... today I set up an FX Chain preset for the Vintage Reverb in GR5 ... turns out that those are spring and plate impulses.
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/12 19:41:10 (permalink)
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    Been a convolution fan since the old Sonic Foundry Acoustic Mirror days. But I find that I'm liking the TSAR-1R and the Breverb a lot, and they don't hog the resources like the convos.

    I did a side by side comparison with the TSAR-1R vrs the BREVERB 2 and with my ears the BREVERB 2 sounded better on identical piano tracks and pretty close hall settings. I don't know how to describe it, it was just a nicer sound.
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/12 19:47:39 (permalink)
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    Been a convolution fan since the old Sonic Foundry Acoustic Mirror days. But I find that I'm liking the TSAR-1R and the Breverb a lot, and they don't hog the resources like the convos.

    I did a side by side comparison with the TSAR-1R vrs the BREVERB 2 and with my ears the BREVERB 2 sounded better on identical piano tracks and pretty close hall settings. I don't know how to describe it, it was just a nicer sound.

    I wouldn't doubt you're right. I haven't played with Breverb a whole lot yet. I've only had it for as long as I've had X3. I upgraded from X1e. Haven't done a side by side. Do you find that it's your main verb now?
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/12 19:55:19 (permalink)
    Ya I'll be going to BREVERB 2 a lot now. After I heard it on the Addictive Drums Start Up Demo, I was sold on it.
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/12 20:00:45 (permalink)
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    Ya I'll be going to BREVERB 2 a lot now. After I heard it on the Addictive Drums Start Up Demo, I was sold on it.

    Cool. I'll have to spend more time with it. Been using TSAR-1R on the drum bus for some room ambience. I'll have to sub the Breverb 2 in there and give it a go.
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/12 20:14:41 (permalink)
    The BREVERB 2 sounds great on my piano sounds !!
     
     
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    Re: So not directly Sonar related but man does BREVERB 2 rule 2013/10/12 20:18:16 (permalink)
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    Woah  wait a minute.... I just went back and listened to the Addictive Drums demo with and with out BREVERB 2 and there was no difference, the reverb I was hearing is built into the Addictive Drums program...NOT BREVERB 2 !!! My mistake !! Even still though, th BREVERB 2 sounds great on my piano sounds !!
    LOL...They must have used Beverb 2 when they processed the samples!
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