Sycraft
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So question for the Focurite fans
Do you like their USB or Firewire stuff, and if you've a preference, why is that? I am probably going to get either a Saffire PRO 14 or a Scarlett 6i6 since I need an interface with S/PDIF out (that's all I need, special purpose interface, not a general purpose one). Trying to decide if there's any compelling reason to get one instead of the other.
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/01/12 12:08:25
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If you have a choice go w/ USB (which seems to work fine from reports here). I love FW, but it is no longer a standard for most interfaces and just about every computer.
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/01/12 14:34:41
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When I bought my Focusrite Saffire firewire interface...firewire was faster than USB so I got that, and still have it. It works fine and I've not had issues with it. If I were buying today, I would opt for USB since that has come along nicely, is faster than FW now, and is more widely compatible. There are some folks who experience chip compatibility issues with some FW chipsets. That's not an issue on USB. my 2 cents
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/01/12 22:09:46
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My Saffire Pro24dsp bit the dust as my very old cat had a fit behind my DAW and dislocated the firewire cable...way too costly for a cable coming disconnected... USB all the way...
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lawajava
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/01/12 23:26:13
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In my last audio interface upgrade I started with a FireWire. But I was informed repeatedly that it was going the way of the DoDo bird and it was finicky. I discovered it was finicky. I had some weird connectivity issues where it would work sometimes, but not others.
Luckily I was within 30 days of my purchase back then and switched to a Focusrite Scarlet 18i6 which is USB. Connects every time, I can pull the USB cord out any time I like and plug it back in and it works without a hiccup.
And the audio interface is really good. I actually have 2.
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/01/13 04:25:54
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I've never had a problem with my ageing Saffire Pro 26 running on Firewire - it is virtually unbreakable (and i should know ) My smaller Saffire 6 runs on USB and isn't quite as bomb proof as the 26, and i can't get a similarly low latency that the 26 provides without dropouts or the Rice Crispies effect Either way, I think Focusrite make some superb interfaces at all sorts of price points. you won't be disappointed
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/01/14 01:45:04
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I really love my Scarlett 18i20!! Great performance, latency is great for my needs, and the best of all is it's sound and preamps. Good luck!!
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/01/14 06:16:50
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If I were buying today, I would opt for USB since that has come along nicely, is faster than FW now, and is more widely compatible. There are some folks who experience chip compatibility issues with some FW chipsets. That's not an issue on USB. Just to say the latency and performance is still better with Firewire than USB 2 (firewire 400 is around 25% faster apparently, although take that with a pinch of salt), and even better if you only have one device running one dedicated interface. If there were any USB 3 interfaces available than sure USB would be faster than firewire, but then Thunderbolt could throw a spanner in the works... one day.... In the real world firewire is without doubt faster right now.. Maybe not for very much longer... My Firewire Saffire Pro 40 is running on an ASIO buffer size of 128 right now, I may risk 96 soon. Thanks Here's a Focusrite article: http://uk.focusrite.com/news/which-interface
post edited by CakeAlexS - 2014/01/14 06:35:55
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/01/14 12:13:09
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I'm looking to replace my old Line6 Toneport audio interface as it seems that Win 8 drivers occassionaly drop out and I have to keep re-installing the drivers. Been reading a lot on the Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 and this looks to be one that fits my needs/budget. I'm hoping that the Win 8 drivers (ASIO) for this is stable. Any downsides to their support or on this 2i4? As of today, B&H has it for $163 (US) which is a pretty good price.
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Sycraft
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/01/15 12:39:06
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CakeAlexS In the real world firewire is without doubt faster right now.. It's not so much that its faster, but that it has DMA, Direct Memory Access, like PCI does. That equals lower latency which is what we are after for audio. Bandwidth isn't a big issue. I know that Firewire is technically a better interface tech for audio, my concern was about Focusrite drivers n' support n' such in particular. I opted for USB for now. I do not need low latency at all (2000 samples is plenty fine).
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/01/15 16:50:22
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You should be ok with USB. I've had and used multiple peripherals over the past years that were USB and Firewire (printers, audio interfaces, etc) and can say, honestly that real-world performance is a wash. Yes, FW can be faster, but in my experience, USB is far more stable 100% of the time - but either are acceptable for our DAW uses IMHO. Since I use a laptop exclusively for SONAR and that laptop doesn't have a FW port, I went with USB this go round (Scarlett 18i6) and have had absolutely NO issues with it thus far. And that's with my interface, a keyboard (qwerty), a mouse, a cooling lap desk (additional cooling fans under the laptop), Lexicon MX300 and my DigiTech RP355 multi-effects pedal ALL plugged in to USB and fired up at the same time. As long as I tell SONAR to not use the Lexicon's MIDI ports, and not to use the DigiTech's audio ports, they all just hum along, happy as can be, not upsetting each other. Another reason I went Focusrite though, and to your point, is that I use my Lexicon MX300 as a hardware plugin in SONAR and have to use its S/PDIF I/O to do so. The 18i6 was one of the cheaper (yet fuller featured) interfaces with a S/PDIF I/O that is a USB connection that was available when I started building up this system a couple of years ago.
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Sycraft
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/01/15 17:06:09
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Well I got a defective one, or at least I hope so. Thing hooked up and worked fine, then after a bit, stopped talking to the software which claims nothing is hooked up. Power cycling it doesn't fix the problem, just has the green and red lights for each of the two channels turn on. So back it goes. Hopefully the next one will work better.
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lawajava
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/01/15 22:00:29
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SubSonic - I'm right there with you. All kinds of stuff hooked up with USB and everything works 100 percent of the time.
I have the Scarlett 18i6 and it has plenty of excellent aspects. Totally satisfied with it.
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/01/18 08:42:48
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I just went from an Edirol M-16DX to a Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 and I've been very happy with it and think USB is they way to go since firewire seems to be on the way out. I have a lot of stuff hooked up to my USB ports and everything works great.
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/02/03 22:15:34
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I've been running the Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 for a while now and am very happy with the performance. Absolutely no problems to date.
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/02/05 07:04:30
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I may be late to the game, but my opinion is to go with USB since it's more future-proof than Firewire. However-- and this is a BIG however--you will soon realize that not all Focusrite interfaces of similar variety are created equal. Even the 18i6 (USB) is different than the Pro 24 (Firewire)! You would think that they were the same except for the computer connection, right? Nope! Therefore, when choosing one or the other, you must be very mindful of the inputs vs. outputs; one may work for your input/output needs, and it may just be the Firewire one! <facepalm> For Example: 18i6: Ins: Analog (8), ADAT (8), SPDIF (2) - Total 18 18i6: Outs: Analog (2), SPDIF (2), Headphone (2) - Total 6 Pro24: Ins: Analog (4), ADAT (8), SPDIF (2), "Loopback" (2) - Total 16 Pro24: Outs: Analog (6), SPDIF (2) - Total 8 Tricky Brits! As you can see, the Pro24 (the Firewire one) gives much more routing options. Those outputs come in handy if you have outboard effects gear. That that loopback feature? Very handy; almost required. In the Pro 24, it is most annoying that the headphone jack is tied to Outputs 3/4 (whereas the the 18i6 has them separate), which is fine for most cases and gives you the luxury of having a dedicated volume knob, but this will create nasty feedback loops if you decide to use this as an output to any outboard gear as an effects bus! So a drawback to this is that essentially, unless you're using a separate mixer, you inherently lose the ability to use Outputs 3/4! <facepalm again>
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michaelhanson
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Re: So question for the Focurite fans
2014/02/05 16:29:21
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I retired an M-Audio Firewire Solo and bought 2 Focusrite Scarlett's; a 8i6 and an 2i4. Both units have worked great for me, the latter I use more as a mobile unit. If Firewire was faster, I really have n't noticed it on either of these 2 units. I have noticed much more of a difference in computer processors than USB vs. Firewire.
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