So what does crash Sonar?? ( Might be solved! )

I was working on a 14 song album all week and logged a lot of Sonar time over this weekend :) 
 
First the first time in years I was experiencing Crashes :(
 
Edit Monday to change title & add the event log here too: 
 Looking in event log   all of them say SONARPLT.EXE  and this is also the module fault only 2 said otherwise. 
Aug 11 1:31PM 
Aug 22 8:39PM 
Aug 25 8:50 -- this might be it!!   module fault  VCRUNTIME140.dll   main app was still Sonar
      11:59 PM 
Aug 26 1:47 PM
            3:28PM   Module fault Adictivedrums.dll 
            6:01 PM 
Aug 27  2:59PM
            4:27 PM  
            
 
I never lost anything as I always save as I roll along and Sonar successfully created recovery copies which I had to use twice.  
 
The very first time I had just inserted Dim Pro and when I clicked on the GUI to select a patch I got the warning. 
Then twice as I was just closing a project. 
Once when I came back after lunch and touched the mouse note_ all sleep settings are off other than monitor 1 hour  
I also opened Melodyne to fix a little flat note on the guitar and Sonar immediately crashed twice in a row. 
 
The reason for the title is I have used Melodyne to convert all my audio bass tracks to MIDI so every project has Melodyne running,  unless its gone once the conversion takes place. 
 
I saved most of the crash dumps and I guess I need to submit them somehow. My DAW is off line so they don't go automatically. 
Tonight I will enable the network adapter and figure out how to submit them. I will also just leave it on line until this is solved.
 
So I spent an hour trying to see what had changed to make my DAW do this all of a sudden. 
Windows just updated to Creator a week or so ago and I also  updated Splat. 
At first Latency Monitor showed marginally bad @ 1,000 u. It shows Windows USB hub as most active so I unplugged everything other than my wireless mouse/ keyboard and it still showed same results. 
I opened the bios and disabled all the power saving stuff ( again! why does this come back? ) 
Then I stumbled around all the windows settings and found nothing interesting but disabled various background apps.. I even uninstalled a few apps I don't need like Bonjour. 
Latency Monitor now stays at 300 u for hours on end even with Sonar running so it's not DPLAT, . But Sonar continues to crash about once every 3-4 hours. 

Hi Dave.. I have to stay at 44.1 because my Yamaha 01v only talks that language. So sorry that is not my issue. 
Funny 48 didn't work for you. I originally used 48 back in  my M Audio 8.5 days. But when I moved my studio back home I needed the 01v so have been using 44.1 for years now. Just fine for my work as it's not going to end up on some audiophiles system :) 
Yes when I use Melodyne its mostly for the audio to midi conversions. I only used it for pitch correction on one project and that was about a 2 second clip. 
 
I may be forced to roll back to May which was my last update. Trouble is you really need to be putting in hours for this to happen. In the past I would only have a few hours at night to work.  
 
Just a note for others who may have insight into problem VST's
All the projects use more or less the same stuff 
Dim Pro  Full Acoustic bass all songs 
Session Drummer with my own sampled brush snare on a few songs.   
AD 2 on the rest
Air Mini Grand Piano on a lot of songs 
Mr Tramp ( 32 bit) on a few.
TTS-1 a few songs for percussion and misc.
 
Audio=  2  guitar tracks ( mike and DI )  using Effects send to reverb. Automated Volume. pan and effects.
one vocal track with Sonitus compressor some volume automation. 
 
LP 64 Multi band on MAster, Lexicon reverb, some songs Sontinus Delay. 
 
Pretty basic songs as I want them to represent what I sound like live so basically a backing track I use live and my guitar and vocals.    
 
 

FWIW Melodyne has NEVER crashed Platinum for me at 48K. 

No, not like that initial 4.0 debacle.
It's safe now (and for now)

Ok, I just read the "your DAW is not a Game"  thread posted above. 
I might be correct in thinking the Creative update has screwed things up.. I see a few things happened to people I haven't check,, Like I'm not sure if this gaming mode is on or off as I was unaware it is a default. It's probably on! 
I just check this laptop I'm using at works and yep... it was on.. 
I also forgot to check device manager to see if it has re enabled my HDMI audio. 
Seems the update re sets to defaults. 
I will check tonight when I get home. 
I hope it's that simple, I've ruled out Melodyne thanks to those who vouched for it's stability. 

OK I just Googled VCRUNTIME140.DLL I asked "What is it?"  Didn't find an answer but it seems Software installs it and it is somehow associated with C++ 
So this is  C++ issue I'm guessing.  
I will re install Sonar. I might just wait for the next release as possibly this one is the problem child. 
I will try a Roll back first? Hmm.. ideas anyone.. 
I'm first going to get some work done and deal with it later. 

Cactus Music
Hi Dave.. I have to stay at 44.1 because my Yamaha 01v only talks that language. So sorry that is not my issue. 
Funny 48 didn't work for you. I originally used 48 back in  my M Audio 8.5 days. But when I moved my studio back home I needed the 01v so have been using 44.1 for years now. Just fine for my work as it's not going to end up on some audiophiles system :) 
Yes when I use Melodyne its mostly for the audio to midi conversions. I only used it for pitch correction on one project and that was about a 2 second clip. 
 
I may be forced to roll back to May which was my last update. Trouble is you really need to be putting in hours for this to happen. In the past I would only have a few hours at night to work.  
 
Just a note for others who may have insight into problem VST's
All the projects use more or less the same stuff 
Dim Pro  Full Acoustic bass all songs 
Session Drummer with my own sampled brush snare on a few songs.   
AD 2 on the rest
Air Mini Grand Piano on a lot of songs 
Mr Tramp ( 32 bit) on a few.
TTS-1 a few songs for percussion and misc.
 
Audio=  2  guitar tracks ( mike and DI )  using Effects send to reverb. Automated Volume. pan and effects.
one vocal track with Sonitus compressor some volume automation. 
 
LP 64 Multi band on MAster, Lexicon reverb, some songs Sontinus Delay. 
 
Pretty basic songs as I want them to represent what I sound like live so basically a backing track I use live and my guitar and vocals.    I

Notice you are using a 32bit plugin. I'd look there before anything else.

I started getting crashes and unexplained problems right before my C Drive failed.  It could be a sign that your hard drive is going.

Run a virus check, Malwarebytes for example.

You may have picked up summat nasty.

Cheers,
Jerry

FWIW, For the last few years, I've recorded all my projects at 96k, and I rarely have crashes in Sonar, when working on a project.  
 
When Sonar does crash, I usually find that it it related to a rogue VST, VSTi plugin, or a 32bit plugin has sneaked into my project (I've removed nearly all 32 bit plugins).  
 
Other culprits include my Roland interface driver.  I also keep an eye out for background tasks, running.  Things like updates, virus scanners, notifications, ect.

With Windows 7 64bit I can only run without crashes,lost projects,if I use an old NI trick for Traktor I think,a lot has to do with my machine being a refurb(by the factory) w540 with a pretty gutsy i7-4900MQ.
 
The only having 5 services running has worked a treat,but I do wonder if it does damage,probably should have started a new thread,so I hope putting this here is ok Cactus?
 
*How to boot Windows 7 with the minimum required processes for running Traktor*:
Launch the System Configuration utility by clicking Start -> typing "msconfig" and pressing Enter
On the Services tab, make sure that Hide all Microsoft services is NOT checked, then click Disable All. The list will become longer so it's a good idea to click Service above the first column so it sorts alphabetically.
Now re-enable only the 5 required services, which are:

Multimedia Class Scheduler
NIHardwareService
Power
Windows Audio
Windows Audio Endpoint Builder
On the Startup tab, enable the Disable All option and then click OK.
When prompted click Restart to reboot your computer. ENJOY!

How to resume normal functionality of your computer:
Relaunch the System Configuration utility by clicking Start -> typing "msconfig" and pressing Enter.
Stay on the General tab and enable the Normal startup option then click OK and Reboot.

Apparently "msconfig" is in Windows 10-it shows how to access here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6UKSTek81E,though I'm in no hurry to upgrade,I'd just like to reiterate I get way way better performance with the Native Instruments "5 Services only"( though I do use a NI KA 6 interface-which may be necessary,I'm not sure?
 
I just know that when I return this Lenovo w540 to stock for the internet,if I even try to run SONAR Platinum I get multiple fatal errors,and mega frustratingly have had hours and hours of *lost work*(main reason why my soundcloud has not much new for a while :( ),also with 'Throttle Stop by Obsidian,I can run my supposedly locked i7-4900MQ at 4.1Ghz instead of the stock Turbo limit of 3.8 Ghz(4.1 is apparently as high as one should go)
RK