So what is everyone using instead of Dim Pro?

I, for one, am tired of fighting with it. I have dxi x64 working OK kind of. In tune...Not too much. What I need are the GM set of sounds. I don't mean GM synth. I don't mean midi note 33 is finger bass or whatever. I just mean I need your basic instruments starting with bass, organs and other keys, no symphony, no guitars, but some old standbys like harmoica, Accordian type sound No ILOK or PACE please.
Any such animals with a reasonable price tag?

For Organ I like ORGANized Trio.

Honestly, I prefer to use the one trick pony VST synths.  I use MrRay 73 for Rhodes piano.  I use MrTramp for Wurlitzer.  Nanotron for Mellotron.  TruePiano for acoustic piano.

I just think it's easier to work for me that way.

FastBikerBoy


Is there a problem with Dim Pro? I don't have problems with it although I mainly use my Sonic Cell for most things, whether you think the price tag is reasonable depends on your view point. I think it's great value but I use it live a lot as well as a MIDI file player from USB.

I have had my problems-as others have. You know you cannot use x64 vsti right? Well, after reading here a it more I find some out of tune notes here and there. Too many. Mainly bass. In the beginning, I sequenced my own midi files (covers) for the bands I played in starting from the 80's. Many battles with Alsesis sequesncers with a cassette tape interface for backing up song files.-go figure. Then I used a Kawai Q-80 for the longest time.  144 floppy interface stand alone sequencer. State of the art-Ha! Held 10 songs or 64,000 notes I think. I used (and still have) Roland/EAdirol SC-88VL .When I started using CWPA6 or 7 I started getting all my midi files in order. I used to use soundfonts with cakewalk.When I first got Dim Pro-I don't remember when but it was a special $99 for the full version  a while back. All my basses became DP basses . . .But many of them I never even listened to all the way thru. So now I have gone back over them after researching Dim Pro. So yes Dim Pro does have it's problems. Which I now know show up more in bass than anything else.
My midi life story condensed :-)

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I use the Fantom in the V700R or Z3TA+. I take it you want a 16 channel 128 voice synth?

Crg


I use the Fantom in the V700R or Z3TA+. I take it you want a 16 channel 128 voice synth?

Hey Craig-Not really. Sequences were done using GM for ever but a bass line is just notes and I don't really care about the channel I can change that. Like a harmonica line-just notes. The only GM I do follow is drums and Session Drummer 3 works for my meager needs. I like the freedom of Dim Pro and all the tweakability. Plus My sequences become projects at some point (my originals and a few covers I have liked over the many years. Meaning I will use a softsynth and bounce it to audio at some point. Except for Vocals and all guitars. I do not want or need to buy a bass and learn. Too old for that. I have been playing Guitar for 30+ years. I tired the GM synths and they all pretty much sounded like TTS-1. Which I use for the instruments (already in old sequences) that I will not carryover to audio but good for writing., but not for a final Bounce to audio. Dim Pro has some nice bass sounds especially when tweaked. Bounces to audio nicely also. Maybe I should look at Kontakt 4? That seems pretty much like just investing in samples.
I was told the Free Kontakt palyer was a horror. But Scott G says the real one is OK. Very confusing. Now if CW would just fix DP all would be fine. Dilema

stratman70

Crg


I use the Fantom in the V700R or Z3TA+. I take it you want a 16 channel 128 voice synth?

Hey Craig-Not really. Sequences were done using GM for ever but a bass line is just notes and I don't really care about the channel I can change that. Like a harmonica line-just notes. The only GM I do follow is drums and Session Drummer 3 works for my meager needs. I like the freedom of Dim Pro and all the tweakability. Plus My sequences become projects at some point (my originals and a few covers I have liked over the many years. Meaning I will use a softsynth and bounce it to audio at some point. Except for Vocals and all guitars. I do not want or need to buy a bass and learn. Too old for that. I have been playing Guitar for 30+ years. I tired the GM synths and they all pretty much sounded like TTS-1. Which I use for the instruments (already in old sequences) that I will not carryover to audio but good for writing., but not for a final Bounce to audio. Dim Pro has some nice bass sounds especially when tweaked. Bounces to audio nicely also. Maybe I should look at Kontakt 4? That seems pretty much like just investing in samples.
I was told the Free Kontakt palyer was a horror. But Scott G says the real one is OK. Very confusing. Now if CW would just fix DP all would be fine. Dilema

Why don't you just use Dim Pro in 32 Bit mode? If my favorite synth didn't work in 64 bit, I'd use 32 bit.
Oh yeah, I'm doing that already.

I don't think a new plug will fix that. It shouldn't be too hard to verify if the notes have been moved-transposed in those old files using the piano roll veiw.

Crg


I don't think a new plug will fix that. It shouldn't be too hard to verify if the notes have been moved-transposed in those old files using the piano roll veiw.

Hmm-They wee entered for the most part with midi KB(granted-old ones) I'll check some
Thanks

Tom Riggs

stratman70

FastBikerBoy


Is there a problem with Dim Pro? I don't have problems with it although I mainly use my Sonic Cell for most things, whether you think the price tag is reasonable depends on your view point. I think it's great value but I use it live a lot as well as a MIDI file player from USB.

I have had my problems-as others have. You know you cannot use x64 vsti right? Well, after reading here a it more I find some out of tune notes here and there. Too many. Mainly bass. In the beginning, I sequenced my own midi files (covers) for the bands I played in starting from the 80's. Many battles with Alsesis sequesncers with a cassette tape interface for backing up song files.-go figure. Then I used a Kawai Q-80 for the longest time.  144 floppy interface stand alone sequencer. State of the art-Ha! Held 10 songs or 64,000 notes I think. I used (and still have) Roland/EAdirol SC-88VL .When I started using CWPA6 or 7 I started getting all my midi files in order. I used to use soundfonts with cakewalk.When I first got Dim Pro-I don't remember when but it was a special $99 for the full version  a while back. All my basses became DP basses . . .But many of them I never even listened to all the way thru. So now I have gone back over them after researching Dim Pro. So yes Dim Pro does have it's problems. Which I now know show up more in bass than anything else.
My midi life story condensed :-)

The 64 bit Dxi works fine. I have been watching the threads about the dim pro 64 vst, and while I can confirm it has problems, I have used the dxi version from the start and have not had any issues....Hmmmm

So everything is "in tune" for you? especially the basses-I use them all.

is there a Kontakt5?

As an alternative to Kontakt do not discount Yellow Tools Independence, it no longer requires a dongle (but you have the option if you use your software on several PCs). It went 64 bit a while ago.
 
I am using the free version with some of the download instruments, including Symphonic Orchestra, and liking it a lot. I like the flexable purchasing options, the full package (80GB) will always be the best value but there is a basic version with a 12GB library and the option to buy instruments to top it up.
 
Kontakt of course has the advantage of a vast range of third party content.

Tom Riggs

stratman70

Tom Riggs

stratman70

FastBikerBoy


Is there a problem with Dim Pro? I don't have problems with it although I mainly use my Sonic Cell for most things, whether you think the price tag is reasonable depends on your view point. I think it's great value but I use it live a lot as well as a MIDI file player from USB.

I have had my problems-as others have. You know you cannot use x64 vsti right? Well, after reading here a it more I find some out of tune notes here and there. Too many. Mainly bass. In the beginning, I sequenced my own midi files (covers) for the bands I played in starting from the 80's. Many battles with Alsesis sequesncers with a cassette tape interface for backing up song files.-go figure. Then I used a Kawai Q-80 for the longest time.  144 floppy interface stand alone sequencer. State of the art-Ha! Held 10 songs or 64,000 notes I think. I used (and still have) Roland/EAdirol SC-88VL .When I started using CWPA6 or 7 I started getting all my midi files in order. I used to use soundfonts with cakewalk.When I first got Dim Pro-I don't remember when but it was a special $99 for the full version  a while back. All my basses became DP basses . . .But many of them I never even listened to all the way thru. So now I have gone back over them after researching Dim Pro. So yes Dim Pro does have it's problems. Which I now know show up more in bass than anything else.
My midi life story condensed :-)

The 64 bit Dxi works fine. I have been watching the threads about the dim pro 64 vst, and while I can confirm it has problems, I have used the dxi version from the start and have not had any issues....Hmmmm

So everything is "in tune" for you? especially the basses-I use them all.

I don't use the basses. I have been using the brass and reeds. I remember reading about tuning problems wiht the basses but was not sure that was 64 bit only. Do you have tuning issues with both 32 bit and 64 bit?

I am going to continue my investigations tomorrow, got the day gig coming early. Until I look further I would have to say all versions dxi x64 and vsti x64 and x32 with bitbridge. Once again-I use the basses in every project.
I would much rather CW did something about it but I really doubt they will or they would have already.
When I know for sure I will be looking at Konmtakt 4 and Sampltank stuff

Many of Dim Pro's bass samples are simply out of tune. It has nothing to do with which version you use. There have been numerous posts over the years complaining about these but I've never heard any comment from Cakewalk. 

I guess it's like Project 5 and wont get any further development or fixes.

Dim Pro dxi x64 works fine for me. VST or DX doesn't matter as long as it works.

FastBikerBoy



No I genuinely don't/didn't.  I've just installed Windows 7 x64 along with Sonar x64, Dim Pro and all the rest and in the projects where I do use it or if I insert it I just call it up from the plugin menu as before and it works. Whether it's 64-bit or 32 I have no idea, gonna check that out later though.......

That sounds right. If you just installed Sonar 64 bit and all the extras like Dim Pro at the same time you should not have a problem. The 64 Bit DXi will be installed and appear automatically in Sonar's soft synth list.
 
I suspect (i could be wrong) the problems mostly occur when there are peicemeal installations and people are hunting around for old DLLs etc.