So where is the X3 rumor comming from?

Cakewalk said nothing, the video promoting MC6 Touch contains an image of a directory listing containing an entry named X3. Everything else is pure speculation. Read into it what you wish. I am not sure this was the first post about it but here is an example http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2821733 ...enjoy

CW might even have an X4 in the works...oh the horror.

At least they had the forethought to remove the "Who Shot JFK" folder.

The rumour started when someone from the Illuminati tripped over the curb...and yelled out something like " oh....X3!!!"

I'm beta testing X7, but I can't give you any info.
NDA says I can't.
Sorry.

Oh, and scook, the "Who Shot JFK" folder was reintroduced in X5, but was resolved in X6, so it remains removed.

Rumours are really bad for a company, and Cakewalk should really take action to deal with this one and sort out the whole X2b issue as well as a sticky thread. Rumours confuse clients and very much portray a negative image if not addressed. It would be nice if someone from Cakewalk addressed the rumours right here and now. But that's a futile statement. I get the impression that the only time someone from Cakewalk comes on here and cares about their customers is when they want to promote or sell something to us. I can see where their priorities are. They reel you in, get the sale, and ...

I never fully understood the whole secretive thing.
1. We all know that Cakewalk is a company that makes and sells software dealing with music.
2. We all know that they work on these products daily.
3. We all know that every 12-ish months or so Cakewalk puts out their new flagship product.

Is there going to be an X3? 
Yes, of course there is.
When will it be released?
Who cares? When they feel it's done they'll take it out of the oven.

I don't see any harm if a Baker would come here and say, right now we're working on a patch to fix some issues with X2 and we're also pretty much done with X3 and are ready to start with the BETA testing.

This isn't like working on a new military weapon or something. It's recording software for crying out loud.

All the speculations on what X3 will be like is irrelevant. 
Most of us are going to buy it anyway.

What's to gain by being all hush-hush about it?

If you feel that you've created some sort of new VST type protocol or somethin than patten it and say "Hey, look what we're working on."

Who cares if Cubase, Reaper or Pro Tools jumps out and starts working on the same idea.
Most people are going to stick with the product they are most comfortable with anyway.

Mike
 

Here is a link to the list of things that were addressed in X2a, from a Cakewalk Support Knowledge Base post:

http://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013301

Bob Bone

Surely an announcement of a patch can't be so compromising that it will destroy CW's competitive edge.

Agreed.
It will also help to settle the lynch mob if they know the bakers are working on some of the complaints.
We know they are but it would be nice if they would just say that a patch can be expected this spring.
No dates just knowing that we can expect some fixes soon.


Mike 

...Agreed.  It will also help to settle the lynch mob if they know the bakers are working on some of the complaints.  We know they are but it would be nice if they would just say that a patch can be expected this spring.  No dates just knowing that we can expect some fixes soon... 


That's what I'd do.


They must be aware by now just how many are migrating to another new & very popular DAW.  


A quick & easy read on those forums will easily prove that, and I'm sure they've been there - done that. I can't imagine that they wouldn't. I would. I'd want to know.


With that, I'd be keeping the coals stoked in the fire here, and not risk losing even more to the other options out there, which of course is just what they may see by employing this aura of 'absolute dead silence'! 


Remember when Mom would give us kids a 'cookie' a few hours before dinner, to satiate us & to shut us up?


You can't tell me that the Bakers haven't got a 'tray of cookies' to give out to us by now, if for no other reason, just to keep us hanging on the line.

jimusic : "You can't tell me that the Bakers haven't got a 'tray of cookies' to give out to us by now, if for no other reason, just to keep us hanging on the line. "

I have a hunch the cookie may be a new synth.

Why else would they be selling off DimPro and Rapture for 20$ ?

I would guess that any future X2 patch is going to be tied to the next service pack update to Windows 8. Apparently there are many changes coming with that and it's quite possible that will be a determining factor in a X2b release schedule. I cannot see it happening before.

...I would guess that any future X2 patch is going to be tied to the next service pack update to Windows 8. Apparently there are many changes coming with that and it's quite possible that will be a determining factor in a X2b release schedule. I cannot see it happening before...


Yes, this makes a lot of sense. Windows is gonna release something called 'Windows Blue' [or something like that], as a second Win 8 release. 


It would make sense that Cake will tie the next release into that and not before.

jimusic


...Agreed.  It will also help to settle the lynch mob if they know the bakers are working on some of the complaints.  We know they are but it would be nice if they would just say that a patch can be expected this spring.  No dates just knowing that we can expect some fixes soon... 


That's what I'd do.


They must be aware by now just how many are migrating to another new & very popular DAW.  


A quick & easy read on those forums will easily prove that, and I'm sure they've been there - done that. I can't imagine that they wouldn't. I would. I'd want to know.


With that, I'd be keeping the coals stoked in the fire here, and not risk losing even more to the other options out there, which of course is just what they may see by employing this aura of 'absolute dead silence'! 


Remember when Mom would give us kids a 'cookie' a few hours before dinner, to satiate us & to shut us up?


You can't tell me that the Bakers haven't got a 'tray of cookies' to give out to us by now, if for no other reason, just to keep us hanging on the line.

Yeah I too wish the secrecy thing wasn't as secret. I mean, if a patch is coming....it most likely will not have any ground-breaking new features. Patches mean fixes. I see no reason to keep that a secret.
 
As for the awareness of migration etc, I think this goes both ways Jim. We lose a few each year, we gain a few each year. The same with the other companies. When a company makes a bad decision or really makes waves, people leave but other people want to see for themselves.
 
Being in the entertainment business just about my entire life, one thing I've learned is "as long as people are talking about you, whether it be good or bad, they ARE talking about you." That said, there are sheep that just follow what they read and accept is as gospel. There are others that want to know for themselves that don't believe everything they read or hold stock in what people say "on the internet."
 
As far as the forums painting a picture, there are a few things to keep in mind regarding that.
 
1. There are several trolls that have been planted on our forum by rival companies either to ruin our product, or to just make trouble. Little do they know, the help us more than they hurt us because we can spot these trolls in seconds. They usually have no knowledge of our product when they come on here ranting.
 
2. Some of the things people call bugs are not bugs at all. Unfortunately, you have to know a little something about computers as well as your hardware to make Sonar work in some instances. Though this is something I'd like to see the Bakers fix in the future, once you get the hang of what you need to do to make Sonar run efficiently, it's not hard...but in some instances it HAS to be done where in other DAWS, not so much knowledge is needed.
 
3. Forum trolling around here can be intense. Whether the troll is someone planted from a rival company or someone just looking for attention, we can't allow the forums to dictate how popular or unpopular the Sonar name is.
 
4. There is an entire user base out there that does not use our forum. So though the forum may look dismal at times, you can't judge that on what a few users may be saying....or sometimes...the same user multiple times with different names.
 
So it's tough to put too much stock into what you read good or bad.  
 
I like your cookie analogy. The bakers tried that approach a few releases ago....as scook mentioned, it's a no win situation for CW because of a few reasons. People use the stuff against them due to CW being honest. Think about it. Bob Bone showed things that were addressed. If you're a troll or someone from another company, you look down at that as a broken product where we dedicated users look at it as a blessing that CW cared enough to share that with us as well as when a fix might be around.
 
The "when" is also a bad move. Too many people get their undies in a bunch and when it doesn't hit when it was supposed toc ome out, more controversy. So if you're CW, what do you do? You keep it hush hush until it's ready because you really don't want any negativity at this point even though some will still leak through the cracks. It's a tough situation no matter what side of the fence you're on. If you're us, you think one way...if you're CW, you think another. Definitely a grey/gray area no matter how ya slice it.
 
-Danny

leebut


The thing I worry about is buying X2, and then a newer version comes out, leaving me with old, unsupported software. 

There are peeps here still using X1, and even 8.5 and are getting along with Sonar just fine. And, just because Sonar release X3 a week after you buy X2 doesn't mean you have to upgrade straight away, or even at all.


I'd say, if you're thinking of moving up to X2, then go for it dood. Wait for X3 and the next thing you know you'll be waiting for X3a, then b, and you'll never take the plunge.


Just saying