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2013/09/04 13:44:38 (permalink)

Soccer vs Football vs Rugby

Debates and cussings crop up from time to time about the proper naming of these three sports.
 
I get that the UK and much of Europe do not get why we Umerikhans call it "football". OK, I'l accept that on face value. No debate there.
 
But, I've watched a few Soccer and Rugby games in my days on earth and I can say with certainty that the rules of soccer does not seem to involve using fists to sock another player (for the good of the game that is). Further I see no rugs involved in Rugby.
 
WTF?
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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 14:22:09 (permalink)
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Debates and cussings crop up from time to time about the proper naming of these three sports.
 
I get that the UK and much of Europe do not get why we Umerikhans call it "football". OK, I'l accept that on face value. No debate there.
 
But, I've watched a few Soccer and Rugby games in my days on earth and I can say with certainty that the rules of soccer does not seem to involve using fists to sock another player (for the good of the game that is). Further I see no rugs involved in Rugby.
 
WTF?


Where did you see soccer players "regulary" getting into fist fights (for the good of the game)? I've seen fist fights in American Football on occasions (playoffs or in a long time heated rivalry), but never on regular basis either......they'd be ejected from the game and depending on the severity, not be eligible for some time + be fined. 
  

Rugby got its name in Saxon times. It was first mentioned in the Domesday Book in 1086 as a small farming settlement then called Rocheberie. One theory is that the name came from the Anglo-Saxon Hrōceburh = "Rook fort", where Rook may be the birds or may be a man's name. There is another theory that it is derived from an old Celtic name Droche-brig meaning "wild hilltop". Viking influence in the area changed the ending to the Old Norse -bý; in 1200 it was spelt Rokebi. The name later evolved into "Rokeby", and by the 18th century had become "Rugby".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Rugby,_Warwickshire
 
 
Now if this was a debate between Cricket and Rugby, it could be easily differentiated:
 
Cricket is a gentlemen's game played by hooligans and Rugby is a hooligan's game played by gentlemen.
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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 14:58:20 (permalink)
pfft.
 
ask yousef one simple question:  is there becan involved?
 
NO?
 
who cares????

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 15:25:18 (permalink)
Having virtually no actual knowledge of the subject matter, I feel fully qualified to answer your questions.
 
Soccer - This sport was created in 879 BC in what would someday be known as "France" by local goatherders.  The game began when Jean Claude kicked a spare goat head into Pierre's tent.  Hostilities promptly broke out on all sides, even among those who had not been paying attention.  Eager to recreate the experience, teams were formed, goats were beheaded, and the words, "Manchester United" were carved into the side of a nearby hill.  This last bit resulted in a minor skirmish that consisted primarily of taunts, insults, and the occasional concussion.
 
Due to the fact that these early teams were made up of poor goatherders, they lacked the proper footwear.  While some teams referred their to their stockings as hosiery, they were quickly battered by men who declared they wore socks.  As a result, the sport became known as soccer and the Germans embraced lederhosen.
 
Rugby - This ancient sport dates back to 3762 BC in what would later become known as southern Wales.  Thag killed a bear.  Actually, he found it.  It died when if fell off a cliff and landed on its head.  Anyway, Thag hit it a few times just to make sure.  Being a rather perceptive individual, Thag realized that there were some discernable differences between himself and the bear.  It took him a few days to work it out.  Eventually, he had a thought.  The bear had fur it was no longer using and Thag, sadly, did not.  Thag felt his bare scalp and rubbed the bear's lush fur.  He did it again.  Ok, he did it for about a week.  At last, he tore off a small section of the bear's furry skin and placed it on his head. 
 
Seeking to keep his new hairpiece in place, Thag had his friend, Ug hit it with a club.  When Thag awoke, Ug had stolen his hair.  The two battled over the tattered rug at great length until Thag finally succeed in nailing the swatch of fur to his own head.
 
Thus, the game of Rugby was born.  In time, the game lost some of its earlier sophistication.
 
HTH.
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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 15:34:43 (permalink)
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Rugby got its name in Saxon times. It was first mentioned in the Domesday Book in 1086 as a small farming settlement then called Rocheberie. One theory is that the name came from the Anglo-Saxon Hrōceburh = "Rook fort", where Rook may be the birds or may be a man's name. There is another theory that it is derived from an old Celtic name Droche-brig meaning "wild hilltop". Viking influence in the area changed the ending to the Old Norse -bý; in 1200 it was spelt Rokebi. The name later evolved into "Rokeby", and by the 18th century had become "Rugby".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Rugby,_Warwickshire


The game of Rugby is actually so called because its rules were first codified at Rugby School in the mid nineteenth century.
 
Mesh
 
Now if this was a debate between Cricket and Rugby, it could be easily differentiated:
 
Cricket is a gentlemen's game played by hooligans and Rugby is a hooligan's game played by gentlemen.

 
Oops
 
That should read:
 
Football is a game played by gentlemen and watched by hooligans. Rugby is a game played by hooligans and watched by gentlemen.
 
If anything, cricket is a game played by gentlemen and watched by gentlemen.
 
Please pay attention Mesh, there will be a test on Friday
 
If there is any doubt:
  • Football = Association Football = (at a push) Soccer
  • Rugby = Rugby (Union or League) Football
  • American Football = Rugby for armour-plated woosies
  • Baseball = Rounders
  • Basketball = Netball
  • Ice Hockey = Field Hockey for armour-plated woosies
  • Hamburger = Beefburger = (at a push) Horseburger
  • Chips is Chips
 
 

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 15:39:18 (permalink)
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Having virtually no actual knowledge of the subject matter, I feel fully qualified to answer your questions.
 
Soccer - This sport was created in 879 BC in what would someday be known as "France" by local goatherders.  The game began when Jean Claude kicked a spare goat head into Pierre's tent.  Hostilities promptly broke out on all sides, even among those who had not been paying attention.  Eager to recreate the experience, teams were formed, goats were beheaded, and the words, "Manchester United" were carved into the side of a nearby hill.  This last bit resulted in a minor skirmish that consisted primarily of taunts, insults, and the occasional concussion.
 
Due to the fact that these early teams were made up of poor goatherders, they lacked the proper footwear.  While some teams referred their to their stockings as hosiery, they were quickly battered by men who declared they wore socks.  As a result, the sport became known as soccer and the Germans embraced lederhosen.
 
Rugby - This ancient sport dates back to 3762 BC in what would later become known as southern Wales.  Thag killed a bear.  Actually, he found it.  It died when if fell off a cliff and landed on its head.  Anyway, Thag hit it a few times just to make sure.  Being a rather perceptive individual, Thag realized that there were some discernable differences between himself and the bear.  It took him a few days to work it out.  Eventually, he had a thought.  The bear had fur it was no longer using and Thag, sadly, did not.  Thag felt his bare scalp and rubbed the bear's lush fur.  He did it again.  Ok, he did it for about a week.  At last, he tore off a small section of the bear's furry skin and placed it on his head. 
 
Seeking to keep his new hairpiece in place, Thag had his friend, Ug hit it with a club.  When Thag awoke, Ug had stolen his hair.  The two battled over the tattered rug at great length until Thag finally succeed in nailing the swatch of fur to his own head.
 
Thus, the game of Rugby was born.  In time, the game lost some of its earlier sophistication.
 
HTH.





 
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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 15:45:59 (permalink)
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Rugby got its name in Saxon times. It was first mentioned in the Domesday Book in 1086 as a small farming settlement then called Rocheberie. One theory is that the name came from the Anglo-Saxon Hrōceburh = "Rook fort", where Rook may be the birds or may be a man's name. There is another theory that it is derived from an old Celtic name Droche-brig meaning "wild hilltop". Viking influence in the area changed the ending to the Old Norse -bý; in 1200 it was spelt Rokebi. The name later evolved into "Rokeby", and by the 18th century had become "Rugby".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Rugby,_Warwickshire


The game of Rugby is actually so called because its rules were first codified at Rugby School in the mid nineteenth century.
 
Mesh
 
Now if this was a debate between Cricket and Rugby, it could be easily differentiated:
 
Cricket is a gentlemen's game played by hooligans and Rugby is a hooligan's game played by gentlemen.

 
Oops
 
That should read:
 
Football is a game played by gentlemen and watched by hooligans. Rugby is a game played by hooligans and watched by gentlemen.
 
If anything, cricket is a game played by gentlemen and watched by gentlemen.
 
Please pay attention Mesh, there will be a test on Friday
 
If there is any doubt:
  • Football = Association Football = (at a push) Soccer
  • Rugby = Rugby (Union or League) Football
  • American Football = Rugby for armour-plated woosies
  • Baseball = Rounders
  • Basketball = Netball
  • Ice Hockey = Field Hockey for armour-plated woosies
  • Hamburger = Beefburger = (at a push) Horseburger
  • Chips is Chips
 
 


I stand corrected.
Thanks Steve...(I was just trying to hold off Bapu until help arrived.......he had his fists up and threatening to be a Football fan).

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 15:55:49 (permalink)
The ultimate football game is Australian (Aussie) rules. Soccer is the closest thing to it in terms of speed and pace. The rest, well we wont even go there

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 16:15:58 (permalink)
But again I ask.... where is the socking in soccer rules? Seems like all that happens is a ball is kicked around (for sport).
 
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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 16:23:54 (permalink)
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The ultimate football game is Australian (Aussie) rules. Soccer is the closest thing to it in terms of speed and pace. The rest, well we wont even go there



We used to get to watch a bit of Aussie Rules at one time Jeff, but I haven't seen any on the box of late.
 
The most 'violence' I've ever seen in any sport (other than boxing etc, where it's the whole point) was watching some of the New South Wales against Queensland State Of Origin rugby league matches. Sheesh, talk about commitment!

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 16:24:38 (permalink)
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But again I ask.... where is the socking in soccer rules? Seems like all that happens is a ball is kicked around (for sport).
 


Me thinks ewe are playin us on a re-run of "I'm gonn git U sucka'!!

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 16:29:38 (permalink)
I was at a boxing match once when a hockey game broke out...

 
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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 17:02:17 (permalink)
the word 'soccer' comes from 'association football'
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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 17:12:56 (permalink)
 
Daryk knows his footie

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 17:16:34 (permalink)
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Daryk knows his footie




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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 17:18:10 (permalink)
 
We used to call rugby 'rugger' at school.
 
Football was always 'footers'.
 
Cricket was always 'grasshopper' though.
 
 

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 17:54:31 (permalink)
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Debates and cussings crop up from time to time about the proper naming of these three sports.
 
I get that the UK and much of Europe do not get why we Umerikhans call it "football". OK, I'l accept that on face value. No debate there.
 
But, I've watched a few Soccer and Rugby games in my days on earth and I can say with certainty that the rules of soccer does not seem to involve using fists to sock another player (for the good of the game that is). Further I see no rugs involved in Rugby.
 
WTF?


Well... I am glad you brought this up because I always wanted to know why they don't call Hockey, Puckey!?!?
 
If they did...
The guy who makes a goal is a pucker. You know what they call that guy's mother?
The guy standing in front of the net, in that case, just got pucked.
If you get hit by the puck, then you got pucked up. Just hope it doesn't hit you on the backside.
 
Now that I think about it... It probably is better that they called it Hockey.
 
 
 

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 21:24:06 (permalink)
Not sure what the puck you guys are on about.  If it's not darts, who cares?
 
Just started a proper 501 leg with 140, 180, 123 (then fecked up the remaining 58 for a couple of turns - oh well).

 
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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 23:09:23 (permalink)
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The ultimate football game is Australian (Aussie) rules. Soccer is the closest thing to it in terms of speed and pace. The rest, well we wont even go there




I like Footie, even thought it baffles me at times.  

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/04 23:47:24 (permalink)
You mean like England's disallowed goal against Germany?
 


 
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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/05 06:51:20 (permalink)
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Well... I am glad you brought this up because I always wanted to know why they don't call Hockey, Puckey!?!? 

Why would they call it puckey?  Hockey is played on a field with sticks and a ball, if anything it should be called stickball.



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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/05 09:03:14 (permalink)
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You mean like England's disallowed goal against Germany?
 






 
Yeah, something like that.  Sometimes one of players has the ball and everyone jumps on top of him like it's a scrum.  Other times, the same player will catch the ball everyone just stays away from him and lets him advance.  

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/05 10:12:40 (permalink)
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Well... I am glad you brought this up because I always wanted to know why they don't call Hockey, Puckey!?!? 

Why would they call it puckey?  Hockey is played on a field with sticks and a ball, if anything it should be called stickball.





You put your left leg in, your left leg out...
In, out, in, out, and shake it all about
 
In some versions of this, the word 'leg' is often replaced with the word 'end', and the word 'left' replaced by the word 'bell'.
 
Or so I'm reliably informed...
 
That's what it's all about.
 
 
 

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/05 10:19:43 (permalink)
It's the shaking it all about I have a problem with.

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/05 10:28:25 (permalink)
 

 
 

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/05 11:47:50 (permalink)
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It's the shaking it all about I have a problem with.


You've either never been in the men's loo in a pub or a men's locker room.
 
Shakin' it all about is the norm there.
 
Boys.... pffffft.
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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/05 12:02:04 (permalink)
 This conversation is way above my head. I think I'll simply read and become enlightened. It is interesting, the parts I understand.
 
 I was never given the athletic gene if there is one. When someone wants to make a ball go across a line at the other end while fighting  people wearing different clothes I ask Why? Heck come take my ball if you want it. If that wasn't bad enough they feel the need to make rules to do it. It must be fun though ;)

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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/05 12:52:14 (permalink)
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 This conversation is way above my head. I think I'll simply read and become enlightened. It is interesting, the parts I understand.
 
 I was never given the athletic gene if there is one. When someone wants to make a ball go across a line at the other end while fighting  people wearing different clothes I ask Why? Heck come take my ball if you want it. If that wasn't bad enough they feel the need to make rules to do it. It must be fun though ;)


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I've not a sports gene in my entire body.
 
I was ALWAYS the last kid to be picked in a neighborhood game of baseball etc. By the time I was 11 I would just say "gotta go home".
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Re: Soccer vs Football vs Rugby 2013/09/05 14:16:32 (permalink)
FWIW, I was always a Captain of the team or the first picked, but I STILL don't understand most of the muckings around in this thread.
 
I played pretty much every sport I could (except basketball - I had "white man's" disease), but rugby or Austrailian Rules football (which I would have been perfectly suited for playing) simply weren't around and I've yet to even see cricket being played on TV or in person.
 
 

 
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