Soft synth: no sound(partly solved, thanks Karyn)

Win7 32 bit.
 
Just out of nowhere all new inserted soft synth's are silent, the"older" ones work ok.
 
Clicking a note in PRV: big silence, no meter activety.
 

 
As far as I know nothing has changed, no internet connection.
 
 
Edit: pls help, Ed is nagging me

I tried master, a bus and sound card.

Ok, I'll check, BRB.

This is what it looks like.

I opened a new blank project,  inserted Dim Pro with same settings you used.

I got this....  (it works)

Karyn


You have selected a sound in Dim Pro haven't you?

Yes, I did not forget to do that :)
 
I tried the simple instrument track, now I have sound again
 
 
@Herb: never had to do that, but I only use the ones that came with Sonar.

Tried the other option again, doesn't make any noise at all, no meter activety.

craigb

You made me look at my first post again

Karyn


You can un-link a simple inst track to give the normal audio/midi pairs, but I don't see any advantage in doing it...

the advantage comes when you are using multiple channels.  simple instrument tracks do not work with multitimbral softsynths.
 
I never use simple instrument tracks.

craigb

Beagle


 
 
I never use simple instrument tracks.

Don't you need bass tracks occasionally though?

Then I just ask Ed. 

Karyn

Beagle

Karyn


You can un-link a simple inst track to give the normal audio/midi pairs, but I don't see any advantage in doing it...

the advantage comes when you are using multiple channels.  simple instrument tracks do not work with multitimbral softsynths.
 
I never use simple instrument tracks.

You can still send the output from a standard midi track to the synth in a simple instrument track,  so yes, you can use multi-timbral instruments in them.

I don't understand - you can't send separate MIDI tracks to separate channels using a simple instrument track.  in other words, if I wanted to use all 16 channels of TTS-1, I could not use a simple instrument track for ONE instance of TTS-1.  I'd have to use 16 separate instances if using simple instrument tracks.

ah - ok.  never tried doing anything like that before.

but - I have to ask - what's the point?  how is that really any better than separate MIDI / output tracks and the synth being in the synth rack?

Karyn


The synth is always in the synth rack.

 
sorry - I misread you earlier.

Seperate audio/midi tracks are great if you're using multi-timbral regularly,  but most of my use of soft synths would be  "hmnmm,  I need a piano.." drag one onto the project as S.I.   then later add some strings from DimPro as S.I.  Then another synth...  etc.

and most of mine are multi - 99% of the time it's Kontakt with piano and organ and sometimes flute, strings, etc.

All the Simple Instrument Track does is collate everything together in one place so all your edits and inputs automagically control the midi and all the output settings and routes and volumes and FX bins automagically work with the audio part.

You don't gain any extra functions by using it or not,  it's just a neater layout method.

Ah, but IMO you're still LOOSING functions by using it!
 
I'm not at my DAW to confirm exactly how it works by example, but, as an example, if I wanted to route 3 instruments thru TTS-1:
 
using a simple instrument track I'd have 2 MIDI tracks and 1 Simple Ins track.  But all outputs would be thru the Simple Ins track - no separate outputs for Simple Ins tracks, right?
 
using the separate method I'd have 3 MIDI tracks and 3 output tracks (assuming I hid or deleted the other output track) and the extra functionality of having separate outputs for each instrument.

alexoosthoek





This is what it looks like.

How did you get X1 to look like (and say) 8.5?


Maybe I'll be glad you got it working. And now for some NagBap.....

craigb

Beagle


 
 
I never use simple instrument tracks.

Don't you need bass tracks occasionally though?

I see what you did there..