Soft synths won't record...

Hello I've run into an issue with X2A.
 
I've got 3 soft synths and a number of audio tracks.
* Octapad USB MIDI OUT Channel 10 - Session Drummer 3
* Keyboard 1 USB MIDI OUT Channel 1- Dimension Pro 1
* Keyboard 2 USB MIDI OUT Channel 2 - Dimension Pro 2
 
All are playing perfectly on seperate MIDI channels.
All tracks have echo and record on.
 
So I press record this is what happens...
 
* I can hear all the software synths and audio tracks. - OK
* The record button does not show red - Huh?
* The waveforms graphics don't appear on the track view whilst playing for any tracks - Huh?
 
 
Then this is what happens when I stop and play back what I've recorded:
 
* The waveforms graphics now appear for the audio tracks and I can hear the audio tracks - OK
* The soft synth does not get recorded at all (no waveforms graphics displayed, nothing recorded) - Huh?
 
Is this a schoolboy error?
Why won't my soft-synths record and why won't the record button display?
 
NB I have rebooted the PC and switched all the synths on and off. They are all running on the right MIDI channels.
 
The strange thing is I can create a brand new project and set it all up and it works and plays back/records fine. But I still want to know if there's anything I might have done in the previous projects to cause this.
 
Cheers
 
Alex

Please follow the steps carefully. What I've written is exactly what happens believe it or not.
 
As stated "All tracks have echo and record on" so they are armed.
As stated with new projects no issue (i.e. I generally know what I'm doing).
The issue is specifically to do with soft synths not recording and the record button not showing as a red colour whilst recording. It's recording though, just recording audio tracks.
 
"OK" means working
"HUH?" means WTF?
When I say "The record button does not show red" I mean the main recording button (not track record enable)... maybe this was unclear.
 
Yes this issue is weird!!! I'm guessing the project template got corrupted somehow.... but then again? Any ideas?
 
Thanks :).

What I'm not sure from reading the thread is, are you recording midi track ? or audio track ?

For example, if I insert simple instrument soft synt, I would not see an audio track, as only midi information gets recorded..

I did some random synt insert :

uncheck simple instrument track
uncheck midi source
check synth track folder
check first synt audio output
..the rest i'm not sure.. 

And I get a soft synth track that I can arm, but can never get it to record. Pressing 'r' or clicking on transport record simply did nothing.

What is working for me is :

So, either you need to check on simple instrument track, or if this is not checked, you need to check midi source - and if you check on midi source, the record to arm is the 'inside' midi track, not the track folder record.

To all - Alex is recording multiple tracks at the same time - some are audio, and 2 are midi.

He is not seeing audio waveform data on the audio tracks until after he stops the recording process.

He is not getting any recorded midi data.

The transport bar Record button is also not turning red when he hits record either.

The above behavior is only happening for this one project.

Bob Bone

Seeing the audio displayed as you are recording is a function that can be turned on or off as desired. Displaying while recording takes more processing power....so the option is there to turn it off. 

Midi, when recorded, will not display audio at any point until the synth is frozen or it's bounced to track or clip. 

be sure the midi tracks are set up properly and the track is armed. The red record button needs to be clicked on, and the track itself will change to a shade of red as well when it's set up to record.  I rarely use the simple instrument track format, choosing to see both the midi and the audio track associated with it.... I'm old school.

I see the midi captured in the midi track and nothing is in the synth audio track. 

I have had issues in the past similar to what you are describing. Issues that were involving ONE particular project. I was not able to figure out what was happening, nor a way to  "FIX IT". 

I tried the complete cold reboot of ALL the studio gear...computer, interface...all from a cold start. Kill power, restart. 

If that fails... there is another possible thing to try. 

Start a new project. Add the tracks and then drag the audio tracks from the old one to the new one. Add your synth tracks and try with a new project.

It is possible that something in the project is corrupted and is causing things to not work correctly....or you clicked something without realizing it...... I thought I saw where this is related to one project and not the others. So copy and drag the audio in to a new project and see if that solves the problem. 

I have had to do that a time or two in the past when I had something go wrong and was not able to figure it out. 

Exactly Bob, spot on. That for repeating it a third time :). Folks please read my first and second post carefully! :)And as stated if I create a new project no issues, works fine. These are soft synth tracks I had the issue with i.e. Insert > Soft Synth on the main menu. We all know what this does.

I was wondering if there was some of disconnect going on. I guess I'll have to put this down to a weird bug rather than schoolboy error.

Thanks..