Softsynth in track FX?

Inserting soft synths
https://www.cakewalk.com/...elp=SoftSynths.04.html

Is z3ta+ not showing up when you go to menu "Insert > Soft Synths"?
 
I did not have to do anything in layouts to make it appear.  It is part of the default Sonar install.

Note z3ta DOES show if I ask to insert FX

That is not normal, so maybe take a look at this?
 
Full VST Rescan recommended after upgrading SONAR
https://www.cakewalk.com/...roubleshooting.09.html

OK I ran that full scan. z3ta+ is still not there in Insert Synth. It _is_ still there in Insert FX.
And now I just cannot get new layout ticked as it was before. I reckon before when it _was_ ticked, it was not really being selected.
 
As I say I remember this trouble from way back and have seen other people talk of it.
 

BTW z3ta+ IS there as a synth after I ran that scan, or at least one of the scans..but I still cannot get synths to change.

AH. Actually I realised that while I was file diving trying to see what was happening to me. I also realised that (and it's a bit slack) when you ask to insert a softsynth by clicking on a Track's FX pane, you are actually inserting a Softsynth in the main stream and not into the FX pane at all....except for Z3ta+....

Your reply sounds a _little_....judgmental....press F1?
 
Unless I am sadly wrong, there is a problem deeper than you are addressing. If you read the thread you may see this.
 
I ask to add a synth in the Layout Manager. It says it has added it. I see it in the RHS column in the Manager. I save the file. I see that the Display Name of the file I saved is ticked (presumably it's now the active one)....but the synth I added is not available for use. Repeat.
 
I use the Layout Manager to try to _remove_ a synth. It is removed from the RHS column. I save the file. Back in SONAR's Insert Synth/Layout, my new fiel, with synth removed, is ticked....the synth is still available for use.

Something here seems to not be working correctly.  All of my synths that are in their assigned VST scan paths show up, and insert as instrument tracks just fine. 
 
If I no longer want to see a plugin I just remove them from either the VST scan path or the respective VST folder.
 
It seems that adjusting layout manager is an optional configuration feature, and not required, so the default setting should just work.
 
Maybe it is time to open a support ticket?
https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Email

OldNick
 So to manipulate available VST plugins you work in Windows Explorer and actually move them somewhere else?

Normally I do not use Windows Explorer, except for occasional cleanup.  Just using the VST scan paths in Sonar preferences lets me choose the VST folders that are included in the scan.
 
The easiest method to reorganize is as follows...
 
Many plugins provide an uninstall routine that you can find in Windows Control Panel.  Uninstall the sucker if you don't want to see it anymore.  Some plugins are just a single DLL file (no installer provided) that you can put anywhere, or delete if you wish.
 
If you do want to put a plugin somewhere else, first uninstall it.  Then re-install it, while specifying the target folder that it drops the VST into.  Make sure that folder is included in your Sonar scan path.  Many plugins store their content and settings in other locations from the VST folders.  Each installer seems to have a mind of it's own, and it can be like herding cats.

OldNick
Your reply sounds a _little_....judgmental....press F1?
 
Unless I am sadly wrong, there is a problem deeper than you are addressing. If you read the thread you may see this.
 
I ask to add a synth in the Layout Manager. It says it has added it. I see it in the RHS column in the Manager. I save the file. I see that the Display Name of the file I saved is ticked (presumably it's now the active one)....but the synth I added is not available for use. Repeat.
 
I use the Layout Manager to try to _remove_ a synth. It is removed from the RHS column. I save the file. Back in SONAR's Insert Synth/Layout, my new fiel, with synth removed, is ticked....the synth is still available for use.

If the judgemental comment was directed at me please accept my apology. It's not the way i operate at all.

I did read the whole thread and at the point where I came in it seemed to have settled on whether Z3TA was or wasn't an fx or softsynth. The easiest way for me to confirm this is to direct you to the manual which has quite some info on not only those plugins but all included fx and softsynth. As to instantating a plugin and pressing F1 it was a genuine effort to help get you more info on again, not only Z3TA but any plugin or function within Sonar.

There's no point in me giving someone a little info which I can't replicate for you when I'm on a tablet and which gives a lot of info that many people are completely unaware of. I even spent about 10 minutes looking up the manual to see what the quality of info was like. The only thing I couldn't do was instantiate the plugin. As I said I am on a tablet.