Grave Protocol
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[Solved] Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
Lately I've been adding an SSL Channel vst to pretty much every audio track, more often than not. Is there a way to get Sonar to automatically add a specific plugin to any audio track it creates or that I create?
For example, if I were to load NI's Battery 4, it will open up a lot of audio tracks (like 16 - 30 or so) and it is a chore to go to each audio track and insert the SSL Channel plugin. Or, seven times out of ten I will also add a FabFilter Q-2 to an audio track.
Maybe there is a way to write a script for this? Thanks!
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Jimbo21
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/25 17:50:10
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I don't know about every audio track, but I would love to add just those I highlight/choose.
If anyone knows, I'm all ears!
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/25 18:49:10
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Jimbo21
I don't know about every audio track, but I would love to add just those I highlight/choose.
If anyone knows, I'm all ears!
I found a thread from a little over a year ago where it was mentioned that Cakewalk was going to work on the thing you want to do - I'd be happy with that too, just selecting all of the tracks I need and inserting the plugin.
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/25 18:49:22
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☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2016/07/27 10:28:22
You can create a Track Template that contains the plug-ins you want, then load the Track Template instead of creating a normal audio track.
If you're starting a new song, then you could clone that track for as many tracks as you want.
You can also create a template file that starts off a project with as many tracks as you like with as many "default" plug-ins as you want.
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Grave Protocol
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/25 19:04:39
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Anderton
You can create a Track Template that contains the plug-ins you want, then load the Track Template instead of creating a normal audio track.
If you're starting a new song, then you could clone that track for as many tracks as you want.
You can also create a template file that starts off a project with as many tracks as you like with as many "default" plug-ins as you want.
I never have any idea how many tracks I'll want, and most of them are created with via a vst instrument :) But I will keep that in mind and try working with it...I usually have around 10 - 15 actual recording / sample tracks. I could just try to get used to them being in a certain order, and not in the order I create them, which how I usually work. Thanks.
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/25 20:57:41
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I already do the track template thing and use it in every project. Sometimes, I want to add a plugin to a group of tracks i.e. several similar backing vocal tracks and I just copy from one to the other. In that case, it'd be nice to select those tracks and add them once, instead of copy from one track to the next to the next etc...
I do clone tracks too and that helps, but sometimes they're already there and then you decide you want this other plugin on them...
Since Hammer brought it up, I thought I'd pile on.
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/25 21:07:15
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You can create a Track Template that contains the plug-ins you want, then load the Track Template instead of creating a normal audio track.
If you're starting a new song, then you could clone that track for as many tracks as you want.
You can also create a template file that starts off a project with as many tracks as you like with as many "default" plug-ins as you want.
I never have any idea how many tracks I'll want, and most of them are created with via a vst instrument :)
Got it. FWIW there's no limit to how many track templates you can have, and a lot of people don't realize "Track Template" is kind of a misnomer because a Track Template can consist of multiple tracks (ctrl+click them before saving as a track template). So you could have a Track Template that loaded, for example, your top four most-used instruments with their effects and even busing if that was relevant. I totally understand that given the way you work, you'd like to be able to have started on a project and partway through, add any effect you want to multiple tracks. That's a valid way of working. Over the years, I've gotten into starting with what I'm going to need at my fingertips, then deleting what I don't use. It gets me started faster, and means fewer interruptions during the creative process because I don't have to "fetch" anything - it's already there. It's just another way of working, but I find it really works for me.
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/25 23:01:22
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/25 23:07:02
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☄ Helpfulby PilotGav 2016/07/26 00:34:25
Cant express enough how important Track Templates are to an Engineers Toll box.
I live off track templates and screensets every project. then again I live off project templates as well.
what I would like is to be able use track template on existing tracks.
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/26 00:15:43
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Cant express enough how important Track Templates are to an Engineers Toll box.
I live off track templates and screensets every project. then again I live off project templates as well.
what I would like is to be able use track template on existing tracks.
THAT would rock!!!!
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Anderton
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/27 09:49:18
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Sony Vegas has a clip right-click context-sensitive option to "Apply Clip Attributes." You first copy the clip with the attributes you want, and then you click on a clip and choose "Apply Clip Attributes." This applies any effects and attributes (like pan and crop), but leaves the clip contents alone.
With SONAR, I think the best implementation would be if you copied a track, then the context-sensitive menu would show "Copy Track Attributes" and if you copied a clip, then the context-sensitive menu would show "Copy Clip Attributes."
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/27 11:37:51
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Anderton
With SONAR, I think the best implementation would be if you copied a track, then the context-sensitive menu would show "Copy Track Attributes" and if you copied a clip, then the context-sensitive menu would show "Copy Clip Attributes."
Awesome idea, Craig! I still think we'd need the ability to add an effect to multiple existing tracks though, so that nothing else get's changed.
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/27 11:49:55
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I've often wished for a simple right click " repeat last comand". Then you could keep dropping in. If you could select or'swipe' multiple tracks and do it. Even better...
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Anderton
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/27 13:41:34
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PilotGav
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With SONAR, I think the best implementation would be if you copied a track, then the context-sensitive menu would show "Copy Track Attributes" and if you copied a clip, then the context-sensitive menu would show "Copy Clip Attributes."
Awesome idea, Craig!
I still think we'd need the ability to add an effect to multiple existing tracks though, so that nothing else get's changed.
If there were already effects in the rack that might complicate things...for example would the effect insert after any existing effects, or before? So even though the object would be to save mouse click/drags, if you had to open each track and drag the inserted effect to its proper place within an FX rack, that would defeat the purpose of saving mouse click/drags. Probably the simplest implementation would be if "insert" could be added to things that can be Quick Grouped, and the FX would automatically go at the end of any FX already in the rack. The presumption would be that any effects you already had in there were premeditated, so anything new you wanted to add would be to process the existing combination of effects. For now I ctrl+drag from one FX rack to the next, which doesn't seem like that big a deal to me. If I had to choose between being able to copy track attributes or do a "global" insert, given that I use track and project templates, I'm sure I'd get more use out of the track attributes copy option. There aren't a lot of effects I want on every track, other than Console Emulation but ProChannel modules can be quick grouped for insertion. Hmmm...since you can turn any effect into an FX chain, and insert FX chains in the ProChannel, adding "open FX Chain preset" to the list of Quick Groupable parameters would provide at least a partial solution.
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Grave Protocol
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/27 14:06:33
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I thought I might be able to bypass / trick something in the system, and get all clever-like. So I inserted an FX rack into ProChannel, set up an SSL channel and Fabfilter Q-2 in it, saved it as an FX rack, then set it as a default bus :) No love...it kept the order of modules, including the FX rack being first, but with no effects in it :)
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/27 15:09:58
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Yes, that's why I think loading an FX Chain preset, if Quick Groupable, would do at least part of what you want.
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/27 15:44:52
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It would somewhat. At some point when I'm feeling really industrious I will try using the S-Type setting built into the ProChannel to see if it gives me the same or very similar sound / feeling as Waves' SSL channel. May as well since it is built in AND I can set it first in the bus's module order. But change is hard sometimes, especially when you are in the middle of a project...
I'm also going to try using the built in bus EQ more, instead of FabFilter's Q-2, since it has the new bigger pop-out window, etc. I would like it more if it actually popped out and could be put anywhere on my screens and be made larger (maybe it does and I just haven't found it yet.) I did some comparing to FabFilter Q-2 last night, and it sounded / behaved pretty much like Q-2 except for Q-2 giving a 96db cutoff slope where QuadCurve does just 48db.
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2016/07/27 15:55:31
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Anderton
If there were already effects in the rack that might complicate things...for example would the effect insert after any existing effects, or before? So even though the object would be to save mouse click/drags, if you had to open each track and drag the inserted effect to its proper place within an FX rack, that would defeat the purpose of saving mouse click/drags.
Shoot you're right! Good catch!
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whitejs
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2017/09/04 16:37:52
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Yeah, Logic just slams effects into every track on command. Great for putting channel emulators in each track instantly.
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2017/09/04 16:46:29
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whitejs
Yeah, Logic just slams effects into every track on command. Great for putting channel emulators in each track instantly.
SONAR has been able to do that for over a year as a Quick Group function. Check out the info on the 2016.08 update.
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2017/09/04 17:32:41
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If all you want is the ability to add a plugin to multiple tracks at once its been possible for a long time.
1. Select all the tracks you want to insert the plugin on.
2. Right click on the fx bin on any one of the tracks in the track or the track inspector.
3. Navigate to the effect you want to add to all the tracks from the tracks "Insert audio FX" menu
4. While holding down the control key click the effect you wish to add
It will automatically add this plugin to all selected tracks using quick grouping.
You can also do this with buses...
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whitejs
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Re: Automatically add a plugin to every audio track?
2017/09/04 17:40:00
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Yes, Noel and Craig! Found it just after posting my earlier line. Very handy. Thank you!
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