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[Solved] Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
Here's the Bass Clef ad Bass Tab with the Open and first 3 frets of the E string. They appear to be an octave too low n the Staff with the Bass Clef.   Can I change this?
post edited by Kamikaze - 2017/11/10 16:38:48
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chuckebaby
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Re: Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
2017/11/10 12:05:31
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It looks correct to me.
Its tab so its showing open low E, F, F# + G on the Tab line.
The Tab represents strings, not notes.
Remember Bass Clef and Treble Clef have that 2 step (sometimes 1 1/2) step difference on the staff.
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Re: Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
2017/11/10 12:55:37
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Here are the same four notes transposed up an octave. See how it now aligns with the image from BassStringsOnine. com, but is played ctave up the E string. 
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Re: Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
2017/11/10 13:08:26
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☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/11/11 03:12:11
Here's anther image showing that Open E is one line beneath the staff on bass clef, not four and a half 
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Re: Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
2017/11/10 13:24:13
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Re: Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
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Re: Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
2017/11/10 13:53:16
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Much better examples this time.
I guess your best bet is to select all notes and move them up one octave.
Wish I had a better answer for you.
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Re: Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
2017/11/10 15:43:51
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Could it be because bass parts, like guitar, are conventionally written an octave higher than played? And Sonar is showing correct p8tch rather than transposing up an octave!
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Re: Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
2017/11/10 15:57:32
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☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/11/10 16:44:02
Use the Edit> Layout... menu in Staff View to access the Staff View Layout dialog. Change the Clef value of the Bass track to "8va Bass". As @tlw suggested, both Guitar and Bass are notated an Octave higher than they sound.
Hope this helps,
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Re: Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
2017/11/10 16:23:20
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Thanks, that worked.
I had started to think that it may be written and octave up. I play wind instrument in 3 different keys and used t pay a bari sax. But the solution for these involves transposing the midi track one way, while transposing the track content the other.
As usual these solution lay in a step I hadn't looked up along the way (and repeatidily when I re-created)
I've not used TAB view before, and I'm not used t the bass clef. Having them side by side may help me become mere familiar with the Bass clef.
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Re: Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
2017/11/10 16:37:14
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Glad it worked for you.
Don't forget to add "[SOLVED]" in your post's title header.
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Re: Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
2017/11/11 00:41:29
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Kamikaze
I had started to think that it may be written and octave up.
Octave transposing instruments aren’t that common, but the guitar and bass are two of them. It’s done to avoid having to read lots of ledger lines below the stave. The note written as MIddle C in treble clef, one ledger line below the stave, is usually played on guitar as the note on the third fret of the A string. Which in Hertz is actually the “C” in the second space from the bottom in bass clef, an octave below Middle C. The third fret, A string note on a bass is an octave below that. Without transposing, reading scores would get very confusing very quickly.
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Re: Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
2017/11/11 02:28:25
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Bari Sax goes even further. Octave plus a Major 6th. Until I sold my Bari (I regret but I moved to Asia and had to).
Flute - C
Alt Flute - G (odd one this)
Soprano Sax - Bb
Bari - Eb - octave
Still messes with my brain, though I understand the physics and the practicalities of the Staff change for doing so.
I've been Working through the Jackson's 'I want you back' Different tabs have different errors. Different players play it on the neck in different positions. So I've been trying various approaches for 'economy of motion', comfort and tone. It's quite a Jamersonesque bassline, who tended to use open strings, but one tutorial used the lower strings more.
On finding the is Isolated bass track of Wilton Felder on youtube, I thought Sonar could help me confirm, some of the notes that the tutorials weren't agreeing on.
Imported full track. Dragged to timeline to align the tempo map.
Imported Isolated bass track - Aligned the track
Dragged to Midi track, and converted to midi.
Played the bass tracks and midi (XLN Rhodes) to check. (made note durations 80%)
Opened Staff View and Quick TAB - Then regenerated
This was so simple. Being able to move note around the TAB view from string to string, is helping me confirm the correct notes (compared t the online mistakes). And work out a consistent approach to how I'll play Having the staff view to help me keep a check n the the notes.
Then chuck the midi track up two octaves to act as a guide track paying unison on the Rhodes.
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Re: Bass Clef and Bass Tab veiws Octave apart?
2017/11/11 03:15:14
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I'm glad you asked this.. I was wondering that exact same thing the other night and gave up on it.
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