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[Solved] Fix The Latency!!
I have the Alesis V25 USB MIDI keyboard running in a sonar X3 DAW on an i5 core Laptop. And no matter how I set the buffers there is still significant latency. How do I fix this??? Or any ideas?
Thanks,
Trevor.
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Re: Fix The Latency!!
January 27, 16 1:00 AM
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What soundcard are you using? Are you using ASIO drivers?
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Re: Fix The Latency!!
January 27, 16 1:03 AM
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Re: Fix The Latency!!
January 27, 16 1:55 AM
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You might try creating a new song from the start. Just one track of MIDI with no effects. Do you still have the latency? Introducing an effect of certain types can introduce latency while tracking/recording. These can be perfectly appropriate effects for mixing later.
Try that for scientific elimination of potential latency contributors.
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Re: Fix The Latency!!
January 27, 16 2:04 AM
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It's up to you to fix the latency. I run SONAR at 64 samples, with complex projects. That's 9 ms round-trip latency including USB safety buffers.
But you won't be able to fix it unless you put some effort into describing the conditions under which it occurs. Troubleshooting is impossble without data about the trouble. We don't even know if you're using real ASIO drivers or a kludge like ASIO4ALL...whether you've uninstalled resource-hogging "HD" drivers that your graphics system installed without your permission...what background services you have running, whether you have programs constantly scanning your system...you get the idea.
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Re: Fix The Latency!!
January 27, 16 2:04 AM
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walltrev
Yeah, it's ASIO
So, not ASIO4ALL and the laptops integrated soundchip? (You did not mention what soundcard you're using) The integrated soundchips usually don't work very well witth DAWs.
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Re: Fix The Latency!!
January 27, 16 9:19 AM
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One QUICK thing to check, particularly with laptops, is if your latency issues go away if you turn off or disable your WiFi adapter. These are FREQUENTLY problematic for folks.
So to check this, prior to launching Sonar, look for either a physical switch or a function key combination that will simply turn the WiFi adapter Off. If no such mechanism exists, go into Windows Device Manager, and simply Disable the WiFi adapter there. Do NOT uninstall it - just Disable it. Then launch Sonar and see if that 'fixes' your latency issues. After you finish your Sonar session, either turn the WiFi adapter back to On, or go back into Device Manager and set it to Enabled. Then your WiFi will work again.
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Re: Fix The Latency!!
January 27, 16 12:47 AM
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Audio latency is what you set as you want, in limits of your hardware. If you have asio buffer set to 64 you should not have significant latency, but you can get crashes/clicks/distortions because your hardware can not handle that.
But there can be other source. If your audio latency is OK, you still can get latency from MIDI synth. There was some problems with TTS-1 for example, which was fixed recently.
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Re: Fix The Latency!!
January 27, 16 1:02 PM
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☄ Helpfulby Mitch_I January 27, 16 2:31 PM
walltrev
I have the Alesis V25 USB MIDI keyboard running in a sonar X3 DAW on an i5 core Laptop. And no matter how I set the buffers there is still significant latency. How do I fix this??? Or any ideas?
Thanks,
Trevor.
Latency has but two sources: - Audio Interface (ASIO buffer size, A/D D/D, and hidden safety-buffer
- Latent Plugins
If you insert a latent plugin *anywhere* in a project (due to Automatic Plugin Delay Compensation), all other audio is delayed by that amount (to maintain sample-accurate sync). When tracking, avoid using latent plugins... or use the global PDC bypass option in the Control Bar. If you disable PDC, remember to re-enable it when mixing. There's nothing Sonar (or any other DAW application) can do to reduce the latency of an audio interface or latent plugins.
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Re: Fix The Latency!!
January 27, 16 1:22 PM
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Click the PDC button on the Control Bar, does that help?
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Re: Fix The Latency!!
January 27, 16 3:50 PM
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Get a USB audio interface. Laptops don't fare as well as desktops. On the Windows side laptops for audio work are quite pricey.
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Re: Fix The Latency!!
February 05, 16 0:03 PM
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Thank you for all the advice guys, I tried turning off the WiFi, turning off some background applications, setting the buffer to 64, and turning on the PDC button. All of which helped majorly. Thanks again everyone!
Trevor.
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Re: Fix The Latency!!
February 05, 16 2:44 AM
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Yes .... thank you to everyone. Major help here.
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Re: Fix The Latency!!
February 05, 16 3:43 AM
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walltrev
Thank you for all the advice guys, I tried turning off the WiFi, turning off some background applications, setting the buffer to 64, and turning on the PDC button. All of which helped majorly. Thanks again everyone!
Trevor.
Good news. Now go back and edit the title of your post to include the word **SOLVED** in the title
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