[Solved] Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum (PACE driver issue)

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[Solved] Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum (PACE driver issue)

Tried rescanning and it sees and scans Melodyne but when I try to instantiate a region fx Sonar hangs and or crashes.  At first...before the rescan it actually opened once but said it couldn't find my license.  So I got out of Sonar and checked my iLok manager...nope...it WAS there alright.  Then I rescanned all my plugs (a lengthy process for a gear slut like me).  Anywhoo...Melodyne no workee for me.  I had to resort to fixing the three vocal tracks in my current client's project the old fashioned way...out on the desktop.  And just when I'd started using ol Mel inside X3 and lovin it too.  Shoot!!

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    yorolpal
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    Melodyne crashing Platinum every time... 2015/02/13 17:12:19 (permalink)
    Can't get it to work at all for me in Platinum.  Was working fine in X3.  Either hangs or crashes on instantiation as a region fx.  Any love will be appreciated.  I have Editor and not essential.  And did not install essential since I do.

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/13 17:26:44 (permalink)
    You really have to crank your buffers when working with melodyne. I think it was yelling at me to have a min of 1056 or something (which is very high on my machine). Like literally a pop up came up from Melodyne and told me to raise my buffers. I have a pretty fast machine too.
     
    The other thing is I've seen it mentioned it works better doing small hunks of a clip at a time instead of a whole clip that spans the entire song. Essentially you do a range select of the are you want to work on on the clip. Do your edits. Render it then move on to the next section. Once I raised my buffers though I did not have that problem and was able to correct a whole clip of about 3+ minutes.
     
    If that helps, cool. If not maybe something else is up.
     
    Cheers.
     
    PS: I'm still on X3... so maybe there is a problem with Melodyne. I believe there was a patch released that fixed a melodyne problem with Platinum so maybe that's what's up.
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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/13 17:28:47 (permalink)
    Sorry to report that Melo Editor works just fine in Plat here.
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    Re: Melodyne crashing Platinum every time... 2015/02/13 17:38:34 (permalink)
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    Can't get it to work at all for me in Platinum.  Was working fine in X3.  Either hangs or crashes on instantiation as a region fx.  Any love will be appreciated.  I have Editor and not essential.  And did not install essential since I do.


    Probably no help here but Editor is working fine in Platinum here. I also did not install essential. The fact it was working for you in X3 suggests something got hosed (maybe not migrated?) in the Platinum installation. I am pretty conservative with Melodyne however - small clips at a time, bounce to clips after correction, etc. Sounds like that's not your issue though.

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/13 18:37:42 (permalink)
    Was working great in X3. But no love today in Platinum. And my buffers were at the highest setting and I tried several clip lengths.

    BTW...I have Editor and not essential.

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/13 18:42:43 (permalink)
    And Platinum is up to date with the most current patches? If so then IDK what could be up. Maybe you found a system specific conflict. You said there was a crash? Did you save a crash report?
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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/13 19:07:25 (permalink)
    I use Editor as well with no problems. I also ignore the buffer warning because it works just as well. There was an update for Melodyne on the initial release but that was to fix a glitchiness, not a crash.
     
    Also, how hold is your version of Editor? I don't recall needing an iLok when I installed Editor a year or so ago.

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/13 19:14:53 (permalink)
    Beepster
    You really have to crank your buffers when working with melodyne. I think it was yelling at me to have a min of 1056 or something (which is very high on my machine). Like literally a pop up came up from Melodyne and told me to raise my buffers. I have a pretty fast machine too.
     
    The other thing is I've seen it mentioned it works better doing small hunks of a clip at a time instead of a whole clip that spans the entire song. Essentially you do a range select of the are you want to work on on the clip. Do your edits. Render it then move on to the next section. Once I raised my buffers though I did not have that problem and was able to correct a whole clip of about 3+ minutes.
     
    If that helps, cool. If not maybe something else is up.
     
    Cheers.
     
    PS: I'm still on X3... so maybe there is a problem with Melodyne. I believe there was a patch released that fixed a melodyne problem with Platinum so maybe that's what's up.




    I have always ignored this pop up and never had a problem, even at low buffer settings - in X3 or Platinum.
     
    Also, I have not had a problem with longer clips with Melodyne - with VVocal, yes, but not Melodyne.

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/13 19:27:16 (permalink)
    Yeah, I'm sure I'd be fine at lower settings and I think I forgot to up them once and nothing particularly weird happened. I've only used it on one (massive) project so far and I usually crank my buffers unless I'm tracking so I just figured I might as well listen to the popup. I probably should have said "it is recommended you really crank up your buffers". Sorry about that.
     
    Thanks for the feedback though. Good to know.
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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/13 19:29:59 (permalink)
    Yeah, Melodyne gripes in other software too.  I ignore it like a bad girlfriend.

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/13 22:29:14 (permalink)
    I have Melodyne Editor as well. I had the same problem when I upgraded to platinum. Try uninstalling, then use CCleaner to scan the registry, reboot, reinstall, and then rescan plugs. I think thats what i did to get it working again.
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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/14 08:03:20 (permalink)
    Crashing is worse than what I see with Platinum and Editor. I've found that sometimes creating multiple Melodyne clip regions at once results in Melodyne "forgetting" I have it registered on my iLok.
     
    To resolve I've either removed the region FX and added to fewer clips at a time, or saved, closed, and re-opened the project. I haven't had this happen when adding Melodyne to a single clip yet.
     
    I hope this provides some useful context.
     
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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/14 12:40:56 (permalink)
    Hmmmm. So far the people who are having trouble seem to have ilock. I wonder if there is a connection?
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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/14 14:12:53 (permalink)
    Merged threads with another one from problem reports forum...

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/14 14:38:11 (permalink)
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    Hmmmm. So far the people who are having trouble seem to have ilock. I wonder if there is a connection?


    I run Melodyne  using iLok, no problems here with Melodyne Editor on Platinum

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/14 17:32:58 (permalink)
    I had an old project loaded up in Platinum, and had an issue with Melodyne hanging up and being extremely slow. Yet in a more current project it was working fine. So I created a new project, and imported all the tracks, after which things went along smoothly.

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/14 18:32:18 (permalink)
    I have Melodyne Editor, and works OK in Platinum, but I had purchased it separate before it was included with Sonar.  I do not have the iLok version. 
     
    I have other iLok registered VST's such as Izotope Ozone 5 and Nectar Elements, POD Farm 2, several Antares and they are all working OK in Platinum. 

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/14 21:41:56 (permalink)
    Welp, on suggestion by an ol pal who really should know the straight skinny, I'm gonna uninstall Melodyne, reinstall and then do a complete rescan. I'll keep ya posted.

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/14 23:21:10 (permalink)
    There is a fairly recent iLok update you might wanna try. Apart from uninstalling, rebooting and reinstalling and reboot again.

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/15 06:51:12 (permalink)
    Since I had already purchased Melodyne before it was included with X3 Producer, I now have two licenses.  So, I can have it on my desktop DAW with one license and could have the second (Sonar supplied) license on a laptop if I wanted. (This according to Melodyne support).

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/15 15:10:01 (permalink)
    Welp...as I imagined, my ol pal was right.  An uninstall, cleaning, rescan, reboot, reinstall and rescan of Melodyne did the trick.  Running hot straight and normal again. 

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/15 16:18:47 (permalink)
    Glad it worked for you. Most likely a corrupted Melodyne install somehow.

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/19 13:29:01 (permalink)
    Indeed it was a setup issue. This is the info I got from Celemony regarding the crash dump. Posting here in case it helps someone else with this problem...
    Obviously not all crashes will be related to this but if you are crashing on a simple insertion of Melodyne its likely to be related.
    this is a crash in the PACE libraries. The customer should please try to re-install the PACE drivers, I think there may be some setup problem on his machine. If that doesn't help, he should contact our support, quoting this email.
     
     

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/19 14:12:44 (permalink)
    Thanks Noel, ol pal.  Ive downloaded and installed the latest PACE drivers for the iLok and so far running fine.

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/19 14:52:04 (permalink)
    You used the words Pace, iLok and fine, all in one sentence. How'd that happen?

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    Re: Dern...Melodyne wont work and crashes Platinum 2015/02/19 16:40:45 (permalink)
    Hope no one minds, I changed the title to alert people about the PACE issue.
     
    And aren't the PACE drivers updated about every 20 minutes? 

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