Brian Johnston
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 25
- Joined: 2014/10/02 12:14:54
- Status: offline
[Solved] Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
Trying to find out what I did wrong (what I clicked). I used Sonar for a few years and no problem. This time, on a particular song, I mix down and it saves it with a .w64 extension (Sony wave). This is NOT selected when I export... I am selecting a regular wave format. I even de-select 64-bit (which was fine in the past) to make certain that was not the culprit. Still no luck.
|
scook
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 24146
- Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
- Location: TX
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/27 11:05:33
(permalink)
How large is the exported wave?
|
Brian Johnston
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 25
- Joined: 2014/10/02 12:14:54
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/27 11:14:46
(permalink)
I get two files... a wave file with 0 bytes... then a w64 file that's about 9 megs.
|
bitflipper
01100010 01101001 01110100 01100110 01101100 01101
- Total Posts : 26036
- Joined: 2006/09/17 11:23:23
- Location: Everett, WA USA
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/27 11:23:49
(permalink)
So the file that's saved does not have the name you gave it in the export dialog? That would seem to be impossible. If you type in "XYZ.WAV", SONAR will use that file name, verbatim, assuming you've also chosen "Wave" as the file type. Even if the selected file type is incorrect, SONAR will use the file extension you entered and switch to the appropriate format. For example, if you intentionally select w64 as the file type, but enter "XYZ.WAV" in the file name textbox, SONAR will automatically change the type selection to "Wave". It does this so that the file extension always indicates the actual file format.
Here's a thought...are you sure that the .w64 file you're looking at is actually the one you just created? By that, I mean if you manually delete it before re-exporting, is the .w64 file then re-created? I have inadvertently exported files to the wrong folder before, and was then surprised when I listened to the exported file that it was an older version.
All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
|
Brian Johnston
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 25
- Joined: 2014/10/02 12:14:54
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/27 11:36:06
(permalink)
I get two files... both with the same name... one with a .wav extension and the other with a .w64 extension.
|
Brian Johnston
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 25
- Joined: 2014/10/02 12:14:54
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/27 11:42:18
(permalink)
OK,forget what I said. It not only takes forever to convert to wave (and there is no added file information past a certain point), but the finished product is 7.3 GB. It's a massive file, whereas my other songs would convert to about 30 MB (for example). This is only a 4.5 minute song...maybe 10 tracks.
|
scook
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 24146
- Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
- Location: TX
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/27 11:49:26
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby markyzno 2018/03/13 18:20:47
There may be data beyond the "end of the song." Automation nodes and MIDI data are the usual suspects. Either use a time range selection for export or clean up the data past the end of the song.
|
Brian Johnston
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 25
- Joined: 2014/10/02 12:14:54
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/27 12:31:14
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby markyzno 2018/03/13 18:20:40
Scook, you are right. I looked well beyond and there was nothing there... but 7 hours later (no kidding) there was something pasted. How the heck that got pasted way over there is beyond me, but it did. That fixed that problem. I then selected Microsoft Wave and it's OK. Before I only had to indicate 'wave' when exporting. Regardless, I got a finished product. Thanks to those who replied.
|
chuckebaby
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 13146
- Joined: 2011/01/04 14:55:28
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/27 12:33:41
(permalink)
Brian Johnston but 7 hours later (no kidding) there was something pasted. How the heck that got pasted way over there is beyond me
You imported something without having Broadcast timestamp enabled.
Windows 8.1 X64 Sonar Platinum x64 Custom built: Asrock z97 1150 - Intel I7 4790k - 16GB corsair DDR3 1600 - PNY SSD 220GBFocusrite Saffire 18I8 - Mackie Control
|
scook
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 24146
- Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
- Location: TX
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/27 12:39:04
(permalink)
Other way around, a file was imported with Preferences > File > Audio Data "Always Import Broadcast Waves At Their timestamp" enabled. This is the default setting.
|
chuckebaby
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 13146
- Joined: 2011/01/04 14:55:28
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/27 12:41:26
(permalink)
scook Other way around, a file was imported with Preferences > File > Audio Data "Always Import Broadcast Waves At Their timestamp" enabled. This is the default setting.
That's exactly what I meant to say, however it didn't come out right. Hows this... ""You imported something having Broadcast timestamp enabled""
Windows 8.1 X64 Sonar Platinum x64 Custom built: Asrock z97 1150 - Intel I7 4790k - 16GB corsair DDR3 1600 - PNY SSD 220GBFocusrite Saffire 18I8 - Mackie Control
|
bitflipper
01100010 01101001 01110100 01100110 01101100 01101
- Total Posts : 26036
- Joined: 2006/09/17 11:23:23
- Location: Everett, WA USA
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/27 14:52:17
(permalink)
I think scook's on the right track. SONAR was forced to switch to a 64-bit file because your project exceeded the usual 2 GB limit. Open your project and press CTL-End to move the cursor to the end of data. You'll probably find it's WAY past where you think the project should end.
All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
|
PhilW
Max Output Level: -88 dBFS
- Total Posts : 103
- Joined: 2004/04/24 16:41:53
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/27 19:31:39
(permalink)
bitflipper I think scook's on the right track. SONAR was forced to switch to a 64-bit file because your project exceeded the usual 2 GB limit. Open your project and press CTL-End to move the cursor to the end of data. You'll probably find it's WAY past where you think the project should end.
Exactly, although I think the .wav limit is 4GB, but either way really large files need to be w64.
|
scook
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 24146
- Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
- Location: TX
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/28 00:46:25
(permalink)
|
Brian Johnston
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 25
- Joined: 2014/10/02 12:14:54
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2016/11/28 08:48:52
(permalink)
Again, thanks for all the input and in such a timely manner.
|
markyzno
Max Output Level: -66 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1216
- Joined: 2011/02/08 06:40:20
- Location: UK
- Status: offline
Re: Mixing down error (getting .w64 rather than .wav
2018/03/13 18:21:46
(permalink)
scook There may be data beyond the "end of the song." Automation nodes and MIDI data are the usual suspects. Either use a time range selection for export or clean up the data past the end of the song.
Cheers Scook... I was pulling my hair out over this one.....On a 45 minute file as well so you can imagine the file size... Nice one! :)
Sonar Platinum 64 bit > Pro tools 10.3.2 >Intel i7 3770K > 16Gb Ram > Gigabyte Z77-D3H Motherboard> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2 GB > ATi RADEON HD5700 > 240GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD> Win 10 home 64 bit> Delta 1010 > MOTU Audio Express > MA-15D's > NI Ultimate 9 > NI Kontrol S61 1.1 > NI MAschine Studio 2.3 / KORG MS-20 Mini - Arturia MicroBrute > KORG SQ1 - KORG Kaoss Pad KP3 > iPad and IO Dock 2 running various bits > Bunch of guitars >Sound Design on IMDB --
|