Tremor
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[Solved] Problem saving correct midi output ports
I use a variety of outboard midi modules with the midi port and channel directed from Sonar to the modules via my MOTU Midi express 128. In HS6 when saving a project as a Cakewalk bundle HS6 "remembered" which ports/modules/voices I had used for each track. Using the CWB save format in Sonar X3 studio doesn't remember the channel settings, I have reset them each time I load the project file. This can't be right, so what am I missing?????
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williamcopper
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Re: Problem saving correct midi output ports
2015/04/01 08:05:05
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See the problem report about bounce to clips. Sonar 5 bounced correctly, X3 and Platinum CHANGE CHANNEL NUMBERS when you bounce to clips. This was one of many reasons that I hated x3, and it is one of the things that platinum has not improved.
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brundlefly
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Re: Problem saving correct midi output ports
2015/04/01 12:49:12
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Tremor, first let me say I don't think williamcopper's reference to bounce to clips applying forced MIDI channels to event data has anything to do with this. It seems you are saying that MIDI port, channel and patch assignments in tracks are reverting to None when re-opening a project saved as a bundle file; if that right? Or is it only the port assignments that are getting dropped? I don't use bundle files (I prefer .ZIP), so I'd have to check that, but i don't recall any previous reports of an issue with this. This information is saved in the project (CWP) file that is part of a bundle file, and I've had no issue with projects recalling MIDI Express XT output assignments in X3. Please indicate whether this is also happening with CWP project files, and give an example of exactly what the track headers show before and after closing and re-opening the project or bundle.
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Tremor
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Re: Problem saving correct midi output ports
2015/04/05 09:49:08
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Hi Brundlefly... you're thinking was correct - it's the port assignments that revert, the channels remain ok, just wrong ports! I don't have a .zip option for file saving - it's not a option in the file box - how do you do that?? Also I don't have a separate CWP option either. I've had a few issues with Sonar X3 caused by Windows updates crashing my interface etc. so I've done a restore - again - and set up a test file, one track per port and saved and recalled them OK, so I'm beginning to think its yet another Windows 7 update problem. Updates are now off!!
Mike Sonar X3 Studio, Aria PC AMD FX-8350 8-core, Win 7 64 bit Home premium SP1, 16 Gb Ram , Behringer FCA1616, Focusrite Sapphire 40, MOTU Midi Express 128, JV1080, Emu 2000, 05R/W, Yamaha Motif XS Rack, Roland Integra 7, Alesis S4 & QSR, Yamaha MU90, Alesis Nano-Piano, EMU B-3, Yamaha TD6, CME UF-7, Technics piano, Roland XV5050, Roland VP-7 and loads of VSTs
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57Gregy
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Re: Problem saving correct midi output ports
2015/04/05 10:08:08
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"Also I don't have a separate CWP option either." When saving as Normal, that creates a Project file (.cwp).
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Anderton
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Re: Problem saving correct midi output ports
2015/04/05 11:05:05
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williamcopper See the problem report about bounce to clips. Sonar 5 bounced correctly, X3 and Platinum CHANGE CHANNEL NUMBERS when you bounce to clips. This was one of many reasons that I hated x3, and it is one of the things that platinum has not improved.
This is not only irrelevant but wrong. He doesn't understand that if you set a track MIDI Channel field to a specific channel, all the data in a clip adopts that channel when bounced; but with MIDI Channel set to "none," any channel assignments are retained after bouncing.
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brundlefly
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Re: Problem saving correct midi output ports
2015/04/05 11:31:51
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Glad to her you got it fixed. Zipping up a project is done outside SONAR., If you're using Per-Project folders as most of us prefer (Ppreferences > File > Audio Data), you save the projects as Normal (.CWP), and then you use a 3rd-party file compresison utility like WinZip or 7Zip to zip up that folder into a single compressed file along with the dedicated Audio folder and files inside it. Zip compression tends to be quite a bit more efficient in reducing audio file size and some have found that zipped projects can more reliably be re-opened by a later version of SONAR than bundle files.
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Tremor
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Re: Problem saving correct midi output ports
2015/04/06 13:33:36
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Thanks for that 57 gregy....I'll use that file format from now. Brundlefly...thanks for the heads up on .zip, I hadn't thought about doing that, but now you say it, it does make sense!
Mike Sonar X3 Studio, Aria PC AMD FX-8350 8-core, Win 7 64 bit Home premium SP1, 16 Gb Ram , Behringer FCA1616, Focusrite Sapphire 40, MOTU Midi Express 128, JV1080, Emu 2000, 05R/W, Yamaha Motif XS Rack, Roland Integra 7, Alesis S4 & QSR, Yamaha MU90, Alesis Nano-Piano, EMU B-3, Yamaha TD6, CME UF-7, Technics piano, Roland XV5050, Roland VP-7 and loads of VSTs
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