[Solved] Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone?

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2013/10/23 13:31:49 (permalink)

[Solved] Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone?

I've tried and tried to get MIDI back changes/select working in X3 and can't. Was previously working fine for years.
All I get when I click the BANK button next to the track is "none".
Anyone else?
 
 
Problem 2: instrument definitions are also not working at all.
post edited by Anderton - 2014/02/01 14:40:45

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    Re: Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone? 2013/10/23 13:33:28 (permalink)
    no problems here - all INS files work as do banks and patches.
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    Re: Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone? 2013/10/23 16:44:49 (permalink)
    Make sure you have the master.ini in the right place. Try Users/your name/AppData/Roaming/Cakewalk/ SonarX3 producer/ Master.ini.

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    Re: Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone? 2013/10/23 18:23:50 (permalink)
    thanks john-- you mean the Master.ins right?

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    Re: Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone? 2013/10/24 01:31:11 (permalink)
    Right. 

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    Re: Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone? 2013/10/24 12:22:04 (permalink)
    Turns out there was a typo error in the MASTER.ins file. I had to stare at it for about an hour, but eventually I got it working.
    Suggestion to Cakewalk regarding instrument definitions: Sonar should ship with a "known good" set of instrument definitions, and let users delete ones they don't have, which is 43,999 times easier than adding them in manually by hand.

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    Re: Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone? 2013/10/24 13:31:06 (permalink)
    +1 to the instrument definitions

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    Re: Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone? 2014/02/01 14:18:04 (permalink)
    soundsubs
    I had to stare at it for about an hour, but eventually I got it working.



    So I take it you won the staring contest then? Can you please describe what you found and what you corrected?
     
    The reason I ask is that I cannot get Bank Select (via the drop-downs) to work for my Alesis Nano. My JV-1010 works OK, but not the Alesis for some reason. I don't recall issues in the past with an earlier version of Sonar.
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    Re: Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone? 2014/02/05 23:38:08 (permalink)
    i am having the same problem running x3d
    i cannot get Bank Select (via the drop-downs) to work for my casio wk-7500
    only the gm bank is showing
     
    solutions\suggestions welcome
     
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    Re: Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone? 2014/02/06 09:45:45 (permalink)
    It turns out if you don't have your MASTER.ins setup correctly and imported right, Bank Select is impossible.
    In other words, if there are no banks to switch from/to, there is no usage of the bank button.
     
    Check there first.

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    Re: Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone? 2014/02/06 10:29:11 (permalink)
    soundsubs
    It turns out if you don't have your MASTER.ins setup correctly and imported right, Bank Select is impossible.
    In other words, if there are no banks to switch from/to, there is no usage of the bank button.
     
    Check there first.




    thanks for your response unfortunately i am a novice at this and have a file  which is supposed to be correct????
     
    can you point me to an example of a file, part of one, or set of instructions that is correct
     
    thanks
     
    selected areas that may be relevant from the file i have
     
    ;----------------------------------------------------------------------
    .Patch Names
     
    [Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 00]
    0=GM Tone 001 GM Piano 1
    1=GM Tone 002 GM Piano 2
    2=GM Tone 003 GM Piano 3
    3=GM Tone 004 GM Honky-Ton
     
    [Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 01]
    0=Piano 004 Grand Piano
    1=Piano 008 Bright Piano
    2=Piano 025 Elec.Grand Piano
    3=Piano 022 Honky-Tonk 2
    4=E.Piano 008 Dyno E.Piano 1
    5=E.Piano 004 Fm E.Piano 1
     
    .Controller Names

    [Casio CTK-7000 WK-7500]
    BasedOn=Yamaha XG Controllers
    0=0-Bank Select MSB
    1=1-Modulation
    5=5-Portamento Time
    6=6-Data Entry MSB
    7=7-Master Volume
    10=10-Panpot
    11=11-Expression
    32=32-Bank Select LSB
    38=38-Data Entry LSB
    64=64-Sustain
     
    .Instrument Definitions

    [Casio CTK-7000 WK-7500]
    BankSelMethod=1
    Control=Casio CTK-7000 WK-7500
    Patch[0]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 00
    Patch[1]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 01
    Patch[2]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 02
    Patch[3]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 03
    Patch[4]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 04
    Patch[5]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 05
    Patch[6]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 06
    Patch[7]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 07
    Patch[8]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 08
    Patch[9]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 09
    Patch[10]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 10
    Patch[11]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 11
    Patch[100]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 100
    Patch[104]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 104
    Patch[120]=Casio CTK7000 WK7500 Bank 120
    Patch
  • =General MIDI
     
     
     

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    Re: Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone? 2014/02/06 18:06:55 (permalink)
    I guess my question lies more so along the lines of should we ever have to manually edit the Master.ins file?  Why check for typos?  Isn't the file automatically updated depending on what instrument definitions are "defined" and "imported" in the MIDI preferences?
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    Re: [Solved] Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone? 2014/02/13 12:34:55 (permalink)
    soundsubs
    I've tried and tried to get MIDI back changes/select working in X3 and can't. Was previously working fine for years.
    All I get when I click the BANK button next to the track is "none".
    Anyone else?
     
     
    Problem 2: instrument definitions are also not working at all.




    spoke to cakewalk and for me this was the solution
     

     
     this presumes you have selected your instrument in preferences > mid > instruments and assigned it to all 16 channels if not then select the specific midi channel for the instrument that has multiple banks 
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    Re: [Solved] Sonar X3b: MIDI bank select working for anyone? 2014/02/19 06:45:46 (permalink)
    Thanks. I could have swore I selected my channel!  That's hardware basics right there... [huge facepalm]!!!  Anyway, tried it just now, and the NanoSynth is now responding correctly.  I've done a couple restarts since the last test, so perhaps that cleared up any Sonar junk.
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