[Solved] Strange loading project issue

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2016/12/21 11:44:28 (permalink)

[Solved] Strange loading project issue

My system has been running solid for a while now, but the last few nights I've run into a new problem. When I open the project I'm currently working on from my D: drive (SSD), the project won't open. I get the "Sonar has to close" box. However, if I open the same exact project from my external E: drive, where I have my backups, the project opens normally.
 
Upon opening, I immediately Saved As to a new folder/project on my D: drive. Close out everything, and the project will open fine from the D: drive. However.....when I begin a session the following day, I run into the same exact problem. Seems to be something happening when I shut down/restart the computer.
 
I installed the latest Platinum update last night before bed, so I haven't tried opening with the latest update yet. Hopefully that will solve any issues, but I'm not really holding my breath.
 
Any thoughts? Thanks so much.
 
~Jeff
 
[SOLVED] Edit: After updating to the latest Platinum, the previous night, turned on my system with fingers crossed. The project from my D: drive opened perfectly with no issues! Didn't have to do anything.....it just worked as it should. System running rock solid again. Very happy camper here!
 
~Jeff
post edited by Jeffiphone - 2016/12/22 11:08:19

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    brundlefly
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    Re: Strange loading project issue 2016/12/21 12:04:59 (permalink)
    Since the following issue is timing-related, it could account for what you're seeing if one of the referenced plugins is in the project:
     
         http://forum.cakewalk.com/UPDATED-Instability-with-certain-Cakewalk-plugins-after-recent-Windows-10-updates-m3526221.aspx
     
    Try enabling one of the Windows Compatibility Modes as suggested.

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    Re: Strange loading project issue 2016/12/21 12:34:15 (permalink)
    brundlefly
    Since the following issue is timing-related, it could account for what you're seeing if one of the referenced plugins is in the project:
     
         http://forum.cakewalk.com/UPDATED-Instability-with-certain-Cakewalk-plugins-after-recent-Windows-10-updates-m3526221.aspx
     
    Try enabling one of the Windows Compatibility Modes as suggested.


    Aaah. The Zeta! I do have that in my project. Thanks Fly. Hopefully the update will have fixed this.

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    Re: Strange loading project issue 2016/12/21 13:00:26 (permalink)
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    brundlefly
    Since the following issue is timing-related, it could account for what you're seeing if one of the referenced plugins is in the project:
     
         http://forum.cakewalk.com/UPDATED-Instability-with-certain-Cakewalk-plugins-after-recent-Windows-10-updates-m3526221.aspx
     
    Try enabling one of the Windows Compatibility Modes as suggested.


    Aaah. The Zeta! I do have that in my project. Thanks Fly. Hopefully the update will have fixed this.



    As far as I can see, the update does not address the timing issue.  However the workaround (Windows Compatibility Mode) posted in the linked thread does address it .

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    Re: Strange loading project issue 2016/12/21 13:17:05 (permalink)
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    Jeffiphone
    brundlefly
    Since the following issue is timing-related, it could account for what you're seeing if one of the referenced plugins is in the project:
     
         http://forum.cakewalk.com/UPDATED-Instability-with-certain-Cakewalk-plugins-after-recent-Windows-10-updates-m3526221.aspx
     
    Try enabling one of the Windows Compatibility Modes as suggested.


    Aaah. The Zeta! I do have that in my project. Thanks Fly. Hopefully the update will have fixed this.



    As far as I can see, the update does not address the timing issue.  However the workaround (Windows Compatibility Mode) posted in the linked thread does address it .


    I'll try, but why would the backup project file from my external E:drive open without issue? The project on the main drive (SSD D:drive) is the one that won't open.

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    Re: Strange loading project issue 2016/12/21 13:27:11 (permalink)
    The root cause of the problem is apparently a 'race' condition that's been triggered by a change to thread initializaiton timing in Windows 10. The outcome of a race condition can depend on microsecond-differences in event timing. So  you can get a different result after restarting SONAR, re-launching the project, rebooting, loading from a different drive, etc. in an unpredictable way.
     
     

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    Re: Strange loading project issue 2016/12/21 13:49:22 (permalink)
    brundlefly
    The root cause of the problem is apparently a 'race' condition that's been triggered by a change to thread initializaiton timing in Windows 10. The outcome of a race condition can depend on microsecond-differences in event timing. So  you can get a different result after restarting SONAR, re-launching the project, rebooting, loading from a different drive, etc. in an unpredictable way.
     
     


    Okay.....so what do I do? The compatibility mode thing says choose Windows 7 and 8. I'm running Windows 10.
     
    I just hoping that the latest update will make all this go away.

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    Re: Strange loading project issue 2016/12/21 14:04:35 (permalink)
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    brundlefly
    The root cause of the problem is apparently a 'race' condition that's been triggered by a change to thread initializaiton timing in Windows 10. The outcome of a race condition can depend on microsecond-differences in event timing. So  you can get a different result after restarting SONAR, re-launching the project, rebooting, loading from a different drive, etc. in an unpredictable way.
     
     


    Okay.....so what do I do? The compatibility mode thing says choose Windows 7 and 8. I'm running Windows 10.
     
    I just hoping that the latest update will make all this go away.




    "Compatibility mode runs the program using settings from a previous version of Windows. Try this setting if you know the program is designed for (or worked in) a specific version of Windows."
     
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15078/windows-make-older-programs-compatible
     
    It was recently discovered that telling Sonar it was running on an older version of Windows somehow bypassed the issue in Windows 10.
     
    They are working on a fix, but it was not released in the latest Sonar update.  They have provided this workaround in the meantime.  Try it, cant hurt!

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    Re: Strange loading project issue 2016/12/21 14:41:27 (permalink)
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    Jeffiphone
    brundlefly
    The root cause of the problem is apparently a 'race' condition that's been triggered by a change to thread initializaiton timing in Windows 10. The outcome of a race condition can depend on microsecond-differences in event timing. So  you can get a different result after restarting SONAR, re-launching the project, rebooting, loading from a different drive, etc. in an unpredictable way.
     
     


    Okay.....so what do I do? The compatibility mode thing says choose Windows 7 and 8. I'm running Windows 10.
     
    I just hoping that the latest update will make all this go away.




    "Compatibility mode runs the program using settings from a previous version of Windows. Try this setting if you know the program is designed for (or worked in) a specific version of Windows."
     
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15078/windows-make-older-programs-compatible
     
    It was recently discovered that telling Sonar it was running on an older version of Windows somehow bypassed the issue in Windows 10.
     
    They are working on a fix, but it was not released in the latest Sonar update.  They have provided this workaround in the meantime.  Try it, cant hurt!


    Gotcha. Thanks Cab.

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    Re: [Solved] Strange loading project issue 2016/12/22 11:12:15 (permalink)
    [SOLVED] After updating to the latest Platinum, the previous night, turned on my system with fingers crossed last night. The project from my D: drive opened perfectly with no issues! Didn't have to do anything.....it just worked as it should. System running rock solid again. Very happy camper here!
     
    ~Jeff

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